Is Sanji's Power Up Legitimate?


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So Ivankov basically broke Luffy out of prison and watched him lose Ace cos he was weak compare to rest of the top tiers comabatants and still decided not to train Luffy's surbodinate:okay:
Seems like it, if my memory isn't wrong there are no panels or dialogue where Sanji thinks of any training or advise given to him by Ivankov, He always remeber the island as a hell and Ivankov would haven't even given him a ship if he didn't obtain all the 99 recipes.... it is weird but all things indicate that it went this way.
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because kata (yc1) or smoothie (yc2) don't need to use a blande agaisnt vinsmoke:suresure::suresure::suresure:
Thats why Sanji was always overall superior to them, his Germa powers just made him go even further. Queen's sword slash put Drake on his knee

The Vinsmokes kept fighting non stop through the whole arc without complaining about injuries, thats was the big deal back then.

If Queen didn't used haki on his sword than its even more reasonable (maybe he thought Sanji was done for good)
 
queen and jack are pathetic.
Queen sword has been broken due the vinsmkoe body while kata and smoothie destroyed ichiji and reiju
Jack is peros level
for me
queen=cracker and jack= perospero
Based on nothing. Queen looks trash against someone like Sanji. Doesn't mean queen is trash, that means Sanji is that strong. Smoothie and Crackers swords seem like they'd break on Sanjis skin LOL
 
Calling it now:
King and Queen might not be awakened, but are much more themed around the lunarian and cyborg stuff, while Lucci, who has a naturally much weaker fruit, will either bridge the gap or surpass those ancient Zoans via an awakened form.
That's how Oda can recycle those normal Zoans and make a guy like Lucci a high high tier w/o the need of power creep or advCoC (assuming he does not have it).
 
Sabo should have been his teacher. What a huge miss from Oda
Thinking about it the m3 kinda got the least amount of straight up upgrades and changes to their fighting compared to everyone else

Sanji got better mobility and better at using dj
Zoro just has upgraded versions of his previous moves
Luffy got better at using gears and got a new one

I guess they also learned some haki to make up for it but still
Like zoro learned more new techniques between punk hazard and onigashima than his training which is kinda funny (cutting fire and sky lance whatever its called)
 
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