Who is Stronger?


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With the way Oda has been treating Kid, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he is already a low top tier

I mean the reason everyone was shitting on him so much was because of a perceived disappointment when Kid, the rival of Luffy, was overshadowed by Luffy and zoro during the rooftop. But Kid hasn't taken many Ls in wano. It wasn't so much that Kid got bad portrayal on the rooftop, as much as it was Oda just not showing us much of him. After all we only saw him use 2 attacks on kaido and then help throw big mom off onigashima.

With big mom vs kid and Law, Oda has implied that Kid is extremely powerful with him stalling big mom for all this while despite being nerfed. Yet up until now, we haven't gotten a single panel of them actually fighting. We just saw the same panel over and over again of kid and law standing by a laughing big mom.

It just seems like there's a lot of build up that would go seemingly nowhere if the highlight of this fight was kid simply making big mom cough up blood, something we saw Luffy and zoro do to kaido numerous times on the rooftop.
On what planet has oda ever shown that kidd is already a low top tier?

Dudes fruit relies on outside interference that he himself cannot control which means his AP relies on the amount of metal in his immediate area. Which means no metal no AP. Coby will be more than capable of clapping him.

He lacks any form of advanced haki which is why he was so shocked when luffys bare fists were doing damaged to kaido

He lacks spend comparable to luffy zoro and killer himself lol

Need I go on?
 
Shanks isn't the weakest yonko since

1. His crew is more balanced since they all natural have higher bounties with Ben bachman possibly being close to shanks himself

2. Dude became a yonko like 6 years ago and almost has as much bounty as the yonkos that were there years before him???
i think he is the weakest....and i was specifically talking about Shanks not his crew.

you've misunderstood completely.
Bounty represents actions and only actions.
bounties arent a 1:1 ratio with strength
 
Kaidou's subordinates are shocked to see that Queen's sword has been broken when it contacted with Sanji. We see that Sanji's right cheek has sunk a bit due to the sword strike, but Sanji is fine. :bamathink: this shows that the exoskeleton hasn't full awaken yet ? Because if it did sanji's cheek wouldn't sunk ,like his brothers or maybe it's different in some way but one thing certain his own stronger than his brothers
it does sink

look at yonji's face
 
Law can definitely stall fights tbh and even more when BM migth ignore all his powers.

Law and kid could have been running and so due their DFs I mean remember WCI stalling BM is possible even for weaker characters
nah, kidd doesn't strike me as someone who would run from a fight, even if he wanted to, he's heavily nerfed.
having law carrying him around is even worse, i mean kid barely let law join him vs big mom.
 
Kaidou's subordinates are shocked to see that Queen's sword has been broken when it contacted with Sanji. We see that Sanji's right cheek has sunk a bit due to the sword strike, but Sanji is fine. :bamathink: this shows that the exoskeleton hasn't full awaken yet ? Because if it did sanji's cheek wouldn't sunk ,like his brothers or maybe it's different in some way but one thing certain his own stronger than his brothers
it awakened
the metal they made of it bends
 
What generated the changes in Sanji was the second use of the Raid suit in the bathroom. In other words, it was the women. Sanji goes after Black Maria to not lose emotions and beat Queen in front of her. Black Maria in love.
 
i think he is the weakest....and i was specifically talking about Shanks not his crew.

you've misunderstood completely.
Bounty represents actions and only actions.
bounties arent a 1:1 ratio with strength
Agreed. Bounty aren't a 1:1 ratio with strength and thus it's silly to even state that kaido or bigmom are above shanks. Since

1. Its confirmed that shanks stailed kaido during marine ford and apparently king himself was also there

2. Kaido reveres shanks as one the only people that can seriously hurt him (with shanks being the only one in the group being alive)
 
because she is the Big Meme woman:milaugh::milaugh::milaugh::kayneshrug::kayneshrug:


image she is in marine, she will dead before reach admiral ranks, since pirate can capture her and starve her to about week. Mother is con lady to sell big mom stocks to cp0 guy

:zehaha::zehaha::zehaha:
big mom and kaido gave the yonko a bad name.
they had 10 minutes to kill nerfed luffy and kid, and they failed.

akainu singel-handedly destroyed whitebeard's commanders and jinbe and almost killed luffy.
 
No joke right. Has kids shown the feats to defeat someone like coby or even killer without the use if his fruit? Since his fruit relies on outside intervention can he defeat any of those names without there being any metal around him?
 
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