Who should Dragoban ban next?


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Law is not competing for the WSS title nor is he a pure swordsman. He is first and foremost a DF user and his swordsmanship is only comparable to or better than Diamante's
Not competing? That's a silly argument.
Do all beast/human must say they want the WSC/WSM tittle to be included ?

"Pure swordman" is something crated by fans.
Such has no place to be mentioned.

Law,Fuji ,Cabaji are swordmans in Oda eyes.
 

Bogard

You can't win
It is better to just let it go. :josad:
Jack's feats was great in terms of overall powerscaling. He just suffered from off-paneling and since he mostly scales to the Mink's kings featwise, many circular logic is created to downplay him

If we look at the overall manga perspective

> The Zou minks warriors were mentioned to be one of the strongest warrior countries in the new world with even Oden hyping their strength in the decisive battle against Kaido


> Sulong Carrot / Wanda were mentioned to be capable to defeat Perospero(who was lucky weather was in his favor)

> Carrot / Wanda were just one of the countless musketeers, with Carrot being a musketeer in training


> Portrayed inferior to the 3 musketeers / guardians(including BB and Giovani)


> Yet Jack overwhelmed an army of Sulong Carrot / Wanda alongside musketeer / guardians(BB, Giovani, etc) even above that in his zoan form


> And Inuarashi / Nekomamushi are the mink's kings, who not only Jack could outlast multiple times when they were switching to try to exhaust him every 12hours

> The moment Luffy saw Nekomamushi on Zou, he felt he was incredibly strong, with Sanji feeling incredible power and Capone(a SN) shivering infront of an injured Nekomamushi



> But he had to fight both Inuarashi and Nekomamushi in their sulong forms just after exhausting himself fighting a country of mink warriors in their once in a time sulong forms, with even Kaido pointing out the fact that it's not that Jack is weak for ultimately losing to them, but just the sulong kings who are that strong


And this is a Kaido who saw them fight with Jack losing, so knew exactly how strong they were. And as a comparative example, Kaido concluded that someone like Doffy must be weak for losing to Dressrosa SN after experiencing a battle against another SN portrayed on comparable level(Kid with Killer)

Of course, injured Jack ended up losing to injured Sulong Inuarashi later, but looking at how much he went through in the arc, it makes sense
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Thats fine, Kaido's scales arent special for top tiers or high tiers anyone, even Killer can bypass them. BM has better durability feats than Kaido because she doesnt ever bleed unless it's durability bypass or Mother Carmel BS.
I disagree with the second part though.

Nobody who used Ryou and cut Kaido, ever attacked BM yet. And we see BM bleed from metal pieces, something that Kaido won't bleed from - atleast externally.

Also you have a direct comparision with Luffy - Kaido took a whole Kong Organ without CoA while BM needed CoA hardening to stop a single Kong Gun.
 
Not competing? That's a silly argument.
Do all beast/human must say they want the WSC/WSM tittle to be included ?

"Pure swordman" is something crated by fans.
Such has no place to be mentioned.

Law,Fuji ,Cabaji are swordmans in Oda eyes.
My god are you being serious? So you think Mihawk > other Yonkos with swords as well?

If thats the case then we're done here. WSS title means nothing if you are the big fish in a small pond who chase that title.
 
Thats fine, Kaido's scales arent special for top tiers or high tiers anyone, even Killer can bypass them. BM has better durability feats than Kaido because she doesnt ever bleed unless it's durability bypass or Mother Carmel BS. She tanked an enhanced Zeus attack that cratered the ground with zero blood stains.
Kaido durability is top tier. He's nearly impossible to hurt and even harder to scar or cause any permanent or significant damage.

Killer attack bypass the scales. That means he didn't have to defeat the scales to hurt him. That's what happens when you bypass a defense.

Big Mom's durability not greater than Kaido. If Oda wanted hard to have greater durability then he would shown Big Mom receive attacks from Luffy using eternal destruction haki and Zoro using barrier haki and receiving less damaged in Kaido. Like just did with King.
 
I disagree with the second part though.

Nobody who used Ryou and cut Kaido, ever attacked BM yet. And we see BM bleed from metal pieces, something that Kaido won't bleed from - atleast externally.

Also you have a direct comparision with Luffy - Kaido took a whole Kong Organ without CoA while BM needed CoA hardening to stop a single Kong Gun.
Kidd awakening attack is meant to be impressive, so much that fodder even thought she would be dead from it and BM said she hasnt felt that much pain in decades. Doesnt matter what you think about metal pieces, that attack is a top tier move regardless of visuals.

BM single haki arm wasted all of Luffy's G4 energy from a single Kong gun punch. Luffy took her verbal bait and she just responded back in kind. It literally says nothing about her "needing" it to defend from it, she is not taking damage if she got blindsided by it just like how Kaido doesnt need ACoC to tank attacks that blindside him.
 
Not competing? That's a silly argument.
Do all beast/human must say they want the WSC/WSM tittle to be included ?

"Pure swordman" is something crated by fans.
Such has no place to be mentioned.

Law,Fuji ,Cabaji are swordmans in Oda eyes.
lol oda had to go and address this directly a few chapters ago because of readers like you who do not understand using a sword does not mean be a swordsman but it seems he was wasting his time
 
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