Zoro vs King CoC Clash?!


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OLda actually tried to draw this chapter, his art is some A+ tier stuff...but he refuses to draw as well as he used to, the swords that were being represented when the "all swords have their own personalities" bit was really well drawn, reminded me of when zoro first saw kitetsu in that shop, there are some really great panels this chapter, he tried for once, reminds me of pre ts, sanji vs queen however...:tchpepe:, Idk it feels pretty lame, I feel cheated olda, give us sanji fans some pre ts level goodness:pepemwai:, what? You afraid of drawing some decent martial arts?!:youcraz:.
 
Ok makes sense, but it seems instant.
That’s why Zoro’s first attack on King is interesting… Zoro uses Onigiri is a sneak attack basically and King is immediately gushing blood… So there we see Blood coming out and King isn’t able to stop the bleeding with the burns that instant

Though, the next chapter when we see King, he is no longer bleeding
 

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That’s why Zoro’s first attack on King is interesting… Zoro uses Onigiri is a sneak attack basically and King is immediately gushing blood… So there we see Blood coming out and King isn’t able to stop the bleeding with the burns that instant

Though, the next chapter when we see King, he is no longer bleeding
Onigiri wasn't a sneak attack, I don't even know where people get that idea from. King directly looked at Zoro when he attacked.
 
Yea. Just like in real life where getting a concussion from Mike Tyson in the 1st round will make you a better fighter. Oh and thanks for admoting that Luffy had to go through multiple difficult opponents to only fall short everytime, needing assistance in every major fight since Doffy.

Zoro backstory did play a part in his discovery of AdCoC by reminding him that there is no such thing as cursed swords, but instead sword that won't bend to the weak and are mislabeled for that. Through that Zoro realizes that Enma's not trying to kill him out of intent, but from testing him as a wielder. As a swordsman.
Luffy again already knows everything with haki flow, kaido hitting him so strong made him think what was lacking to generate the same amount of force. You also forget that acoc infusion has an aura to it that can knock people out (just like regular coc) so luffy would obviously observe that kaido was using his coc in his attacks. Luffy ,like any other strong coc user , he can detect haoshoku haki when it’s being used.

Zoro knew nothing on how coc works just an hour ago, and now suddenly can use its advanced form ☠️. Whom many long time coc users didn’t knew how (chinjao, flamingo, katakuri).
 

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King was still trying to kill Marco in the panels before… Both king and queen were entirely focused on killing Marco before Zoro and Sanji arrived
They wanted to attack Marco but he stopped them saying he gave up and announced Zoro and Sanji are gonna take the stage. Everyone's looking at Zoro as fodders cheered for his return. King watched the entire thing. It was no sneak attack period.
 
They wanted to attack Marco but he stopped them saying he gave up and announced Zoro and Sanji are gonna take the stage. Everyone's looking at Zoro as fodders cheered for his return. King watched the entire thing. It was no sneak attack period.
King and Queen stopped? Just coz we cut to another panel of Zoro and Sanji coming in and them appearing and attacking these guys, doesn’t mean King and Queen stopped

We would literally need a panel of them actually stopping to say they stopped and there is no such panel
 

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King and Queen stopped? Just coz we cut to another panel of Zoro and Sanji coming in and them appearing and attacking these guys, doesn’t mean King and Queen stopped

We would literally need a panel of them actually stopping to say they stopped and there is no such panel

The fact that they didn't attack Marco isn't enough? Bruh. Zoro was literally in bandages when King and Queen initiated their attacks. You think they couldn't have hit him before Zoro breaks free, gets cheered by everyone and their moms, takes Onigiri's stance, launches himself at King from the same direction that he was looking in? Are we being serious here?
 

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You guys are taking the dragon twister thing too far… King blocked… Thats all… He used his wings plus armament haki and blocked… thats what allowed him to take the dragon twister better than Kaido famously DOES NOT BLOCK
What does Kaido block with? His arms that has less scales than his body?

Kaido doesn't have to have every single stat above everyone. That's not how it works.

It's a fact that King has tanked Zoro better than kaido ever has.

The problem with Kaido is his insane recovery rate and stamina.
 
Cap rayleigh didnt teach him how to control coc. Infact rayleigh stated it cant be trained. It can only be honed and expanded upon the stronger its user becomes
That's why I specifically mentioned ''control'', the ability can't be enhanced though training but it can be brought under control to avoid the indiscriminate leak so Rayleigh definitely implies there's still some way to get skilled in it besides individual growth/making it stronger.

 
Yea. Just like in real life where getting a concussion from Mike Tyson in the 1st round will make you a better fighter. Oh and thanks for admitting that Luffy had to go through multiple difficult opponents to only fall short everytime, needing assistance in every major fight since Doffy.

Zoro backstory did play a part in his discovery of AdCoC by reminding him that there is no such thing as cursed swords, but instead sword that won't bend to the weak and are mislabeled for that. Through that Zoro realizes that Enma's not trying to kill him out of intent, but from testing him as a wielder. As a swordsman.
I think some people to caught up on the whole never used CoC aspect .
Zoro never use it like we see others did but he sure as hell knew what it was and with help of Enma and thinking he pushing his haki while it draining he getting ACoC done .

Truth is i like Oda as a writer but he not perfect this still a weekly manga so when look at certain things it make no sense.
Ray left luffy 6 month early since he teach him the basic of haki but not even teach him ACoA which is something he get taught like 1 month in time skip over a few days is lol.
Yeah there the whole haki grows in the battle but really when you look at certain aspects even that stupid for certain things lol.
 
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I mean I don't think King is on par with the Emperors, but he's treating Zoro in a way several top tiers could not.

King is the first person to straight up overpower Zoro's guard (he fucking held back Hakai for a bit, so even two Emperors failed to accomplish that), and he took it a step further by overpowering a named Santoryu technique from Zoro headon, and sending Zoro flying back a considerable distance.
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This is just my thought but while Zoro held back Hakai (for whatever amount of time) he had felt its incoming power (thus, his reaction - "this is insane") which allowed him to prepare for the incoming attack. While on King's case, he had no idea what's gonna hit him. He got caught off guard (in a way). King overpowering Zoro is no big deal considering his mystical background and his Ancient Zoan DF as well as his position of the YC1. Katakuri toyed with Luffy before Luffy got his FS. Even Cracker gave Luffy hard time and Luffy needed Nami's assistance. YCs are no joke when it comes to strength.

For whatever reason, Oda chose not to grant the Emperors this privilege. It's weird but it is what it is.


Or consider this, Tempura Udon is above Ikkoku Sovereignty:
No it's not. Ikkoku is a technique where Big Mom swings her sword with her full might, unless we're agreeing on King's Neck/ Head is powerful than Big Mom's full power swings it's just NOT ABOVE.
 
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