Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1033 Spoilers Discussion

[Brendan Schaub]

What are we talking about fellas

 

[Ask D question]

That's YOUR idea of named attacks. You can't use that as fact and gospel for everyone. Based on that idea, yeah, you are right. Even then, HM was against an already injured Wadatsumi. You don't know what would've happened if Sanji used HM first, THEN Jinbe used VD.

Fair point, still wadasumi was clearly more in pain after sanji's attack than he was after jimbei's

Why is there even an argument?

Queen is literally comparing sanji's flammes to king's

Obviously they grant him better ap than jimbei

 

[huggertkettle]

Easy, Jinbe wouldn’t have had to use Vagabond Drill.

Yeah, nice headcanon

 

[RedDrifter]

it never ceases to amaze me how people derail the spoiler discussion in favor of “omg x character is stronger than y character!”. Gotta tell you, some people must be typing their crappy comments from a mental institute. I also fail to fathom how some people say King could put up a fight against Kaido and make him struggle. I mean how dumb must you be to believe such a thing? Kaido literally took on 9 scabbards, minks, Killer, 4 worst generation members and Yamato and he’s still going at it with Luffy even though he’s slightly weakened.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

His eyes went white afair, so that's definitely a sign of injury.

Kaidos eyes were white after Momo bit him…

 

[fanboy]

Sanji's arc: Get an arranged marriage. Get ass beat by brothers.Get heartbroken be a 16 year old. And bake a cake for the enemy.

Zoro's arc: Kill a magistrate. Sleep with Hiyori. Tame one of the strongest swords. Scar Kaido. Unlock CoC. Fight a God... ZKK.

 

[sanjikun]

Fine fine, fair enough

It's ok. People that disagree with me attribute fake quotes to me all the time.

I said Luffy/Law were > Calamities out of the timeskip, and Pero-whats-face says I said Zoro/Sanji > Calamities out of the timeskip.

I've been saying for months, Sanji's Queen KO move will be a dinosaur/meteor move, now they're trying to make it seem like I said HM will KO Queen because I said HM is a massive move and "game changer".

 

[Cinera]

He never even tried to dodge because he was confident he tanks it.

Yet he dodged the Pound Cannon.

Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki (when used against Kaido) has a radius od several hundred metres; there's no indication that it's something you can dodge.

Katakuri already knows that it happened several seconds beforehand. It's literally impossible for Kat not do dodge it. A Linear strike from Zoro is far too easy too dodge.

Thunder Bagua is a linear strike and even with FS, Luffy can't dodge it.

Superior speed can surpass Future Sight.

Oda has a habit of giving YC1 very similar attributes. They're always the special one out of the group of the commanders, it's quite striking.

- Kat has CoC and FS
- King has CoC and is from a special race
- Marco has a mythical Zoan

Power inflation says otherwise.

 

[huggertkettle]

Wdatsumi only worried about the air going out from his body, he wanted to stay big, didn't do enough damage for him to get him worried about his defeat, PLUS he looked so fine right after... While hell memories straight up finished him for the rest of the arc...

"Looked fine". That's conveniently subjective.

 

[Jailer]

I really wonder what that secret is

According to what Queen is impying his race has grown to indure all kinds of harsh environments, so they probably are able to take attacks or adapt do damage a lot better than regular humans. With King being more special due to his strength and being an ancient zoan.

 

[Julius]

We don't know that though. We don't know how strong Hell Memories is vs Vagabond Drill. My point is you can't just assume that based on Wadatsumi.

Yes it easily, Jinbei was never stronger than Sanji, the portrayal made this very clear right after the timeskip. Jinbei always treated Sanji as a superior authority in the crew, specially during Whole Cake Island and also at Wano.

Wadatsumi was completely fine after Jinbei's attack, then got finished by Sanji.

Even attacks weaker than "Hell Memories" were portraited to be stronger than "Vagabond Drill", Rotisserie Strike is an example.

Jinbei himself said that if Big Mom managed to approach Sunny again, they wouldn't be able to stop her, so thats most likely his strongest move.

And now thats Exoskeleton Sanji.

 

[zorji]

"Looked fine". That's conveniently subjective.

Bro what

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

According to the spoilers he did that.

Zoro's onigiri also drew some blood but there's something that happened to King after that, and with what Queen said his durability probably adapts over time from those type of attacks allowing King to take less damage.

That's one theory at least on what makes King special.

That would make king a saiyan. Adapting to the powrer of his opponent. The more fatal the damage that he takes and recovers from the less damage he will sustain from said attack moving foward

 

[The White Crane]

the anime did even more justice: Sanji was the best hype tool for King

Looking forward to King shutting down Cook (again) and Marco in the anime. :cheers:

When will Cook ever learn that, unlike Luffy & Zoro, he is not meant to hang out with people above his paygrade?

 

[huggertkettle]

Kaidos eyes were white after Momo bit him…

Exactly. You can't say it's "no damage" then. Even if just a bit, Momo's bite did damage Kaido. Even if just a bit, VD did damage Jinbe.

 

[MarineHQ]

Rengoku Oni giri Slashed his chest with a LOT of blood , but the damage simply vanished , King is immortal in my opinion , he's like the one piece version of Hidan from Naruto

What if the flame on King's back kinda insta heals every damage King takes and when it's put out Zoro can damage King without him healing from it again.

I mean Foxfire style gotta be good for something

 

[Steven]

Lol at the Doffy denialwank

King would yeets Pinky across DR harder as Boundman

 

[sanjikun]

The fact that you think Enma nerfed Zoro when that's not the implication of the spoiler is quite baffling

Enma will make Zoro stronger LONG TERM, but SHORT TERM he is nerfed. There is no doubt.

By the end of the King battle he'll be stronger though.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Exactly. You can't say it's "no damage" then. Even if just a bit, Momo's bite did damage Kaido. Even if just a bit, VD did damage Jinbe.

Fair enough:
Jinbes Vagabond drill did as much damage to wadatsumi as Momos bite did to Kaido.

 

[Soyz]

king buit different can't really compare him to a clown like queen. replace sanji with zoro against Q and that fight will prematurely end.

Yeah right thats why he was able to tank marco, king and sanji attacks , oh and big mom too.