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I've just seen that the sfx drum notes from the panel Oda wanted to draw in skypea are exactly the same sfx sounds in this chapter. What does this mean? The one with the drum in skypea is Usopp, therefore Luffy is bait and Usopp is the real joyboy :usoprice:

They're the strawhats, they are one crew.
Luffy is nothing without his crew.
 
Ummmm Z-zorobros??? Why is luffy waking up? Kaido is in dragon form about to crash Wano!! Why is luffy coming when its finally our Grandmaster turn to kill Kaido and take over as the protagonist!?!

:josad:
 
I think being Joyboy has something to do with death, and rebirth. Kaido’s imagery of Rocks, Shanks, Whitebeard, Roger, and Oden are commonly interpreted as him ranking his top five strongest pirates of all time (which would be a contradiction to existing themes in the story), but I think it’s in regards in to who he thought could’ve been Joyboy. Each of these men had a magnificent death defying perilous odds (except for Shanks, but I think that’s because he’s still an existing candidate) which “completes” them. None of them returned to be Joyboy so I think that signifies their shortcomings? Idk, I need to think it through more but it would explain Kaido’s obsession with death and wanting to die magnificently, I think it’s to see if he’s Joyboy
 

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Ummmm Z-zorobros??? Why is luffy waking up? Kaido is in dragon form about to crash Wano!! Why is luffy coming when its finally our Grandmaster turn to kill Kaido and take over as the protagonist!?!

:josad:
The Grandmaster's job shall be the one to kill Kaido. It's ok if JoyBoy / Luffy or whatever vanquish him first by defeating him though. :cheers:
 
--This time I am late to the party ; slept 12 hrs :catsure:

--My review --

-- Waido The Beauty and the beast :steef::steef::finally:



-- Kaido casually doing an island level attack :myman:



--More kaido greatness :funky::funky:



--And kaido literally killed Luffy the MC in gear 4th lol :steef::steef:

--As always waido too strong @ODIAK D.TSEGNORTS @Hanzo hattori @Tejas

--Yamato was also very good this chapter ; very strong will , a future strawhat for sure :finally::finally:



--Also beautiful :catblush::catblush:

 
CP0 boss accepted his faith going down knowing his job is done after all the crap he's been through
Not sure if there's any pieces of him left after all the bonking by Kaido, well he's probably still alive since Kaido don't use his Kanabo to kill people

Luffy is Joyboy, not sure how am I supposed to react to this,
the guy that Whitebeard said Roger is waiting for, probably the reason why WB or maybe even Shanks didn't take the throne as well since they probably also wait for him
the guy that turned Who's who into piracy for failing to protect the fruit from Shanks
And the Guy who's Kaido want to be and probably also waiting for all along
Idk man, we probably won't see Kaido getting knocked out like the usual villain, he's probably gonna be beaten by Luffy, with Kidd and Law as support (or spectator) and then decided to team up with Luffy once he realized he's Joyboy while telling his story with Rocks and what he knew of the old Joyboy from legends
Probably
Zunesha seems happy to be reunited with his old friend

Will Luffy still be Luffy thou?
Or will he pulled a three eyed Raven crap and act like a different person?
 
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--This time I am late to the party ; slept 12 hrs :catsure:

--My review --

-- Waido The Beauty and the beast :steef::steef::finally:



-- Kaido casually doing an island level attack :myman:



--More kaido greatness :funky::funky:



--And kaido literally killed Luffy the MC in gear 4th lol :steef::steef:

--As always waido too strong @ODIAK D.TSEGNORTS @Hanzo hattori @Tejas

--Yamato was also very good this chapter ; very strong will , a future strawhat for sure :finally::finally:



--Also beautiful :catblush::catblush:

Not trying to shame on Kaido's AP but that roof been taking his CoC infused club swings the entire day and it still didn't collapse.

Yamato really looks beautiful in that panel and Oda actually nailed to show off her determination
 
Luffy smiled becoz he understood something about awakening of his DF.
awakening of DF changes his body and that is what zunisha heard.
Luffy wasn't dead and alive again.
 
Oh boy, this is rough. It really does depend on where Oda goes from here.

It was very obvious that Luffy was Joyboy, but there's a difference between a title that anyone can earn and the reincarnation route. I highly doubt it will be the latter, but if it is the former Oda has made a mess of the presentation. It now seems that being Joyboy is about eating the right fruit which I certainly don't like.

There has been no indication that Luffy's fruit is so special that even the WG went to lengths to change its name. That opens up such a can of worms that the execution will have to be stellar to reconcile things.

- The Kaido victory box just seems pointless if Luffy is just going to come back and beat him anyway, but that seems to be par for the course for Wano. I don't think Luffy actually died, and if he died only to be revived by Joyboy's special fruit I believe that would be even worse. Lack of tension would be putting it mildly.

- The WG should have been aware that Luffy had the gomu gomu no mi since Alabasta at earliest and at worst by Marineford that was televised to the entire world.
Saying that they didn't know it was special doesn't work because of how they punished Who's Who for losing it. Even if it were just "rumours", something that severe being so ignored when Luffy has been running around shouting "Gomu Gomu no" makes no sense. CP0 should have been on that right from the start!

- "You couldn't become JoyBoy too." It would be sad if "becoming Joyboy" wasn't about the will of the individual but just if they happened to eat a secret fruit or not. That I wouldn't like. Part of the appeal of Luffy was the relatively sucky fruit he ate and overcoming foes with better ones. He has been mocked for his powers, had it called inferior, etc, only for it to turn out to be so highly regarded by the WG, it's name had to be changed kinda invalidates all that in retrospect. Luffy already had a special ability in CoC that's highly regarded, but to have his fruit be that too would be too much.

Yes it's a shounen, but there has been plenty of time to not make it feel forced, to just be learning about it over a 1000 chapters in. There have been plenty of theories about Luffy having the prior Pirate King's devil fruit and how that wouldn't be a good development, but Luffy now seems to have the fruit of someone even beyond that, a semi-mythical figure that may be the original enemy of the WG from over 800 years ago. Even Blackbeard's Yami Yami no mi's name wasn't changed and left in the df encyclopedia, while Law's fruit is special for what it can do for someone else. So this mystery devil fruit could be even more special than all that.

I'll have to wait and see. Being pleased about the inevitable confirmation of Luffy being Joy Boy is being dampened by what that might actually entail.
 
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