Who will defeat Kaido?


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The tears in this thread, from people who call this an asspull and call it stupid and plot-this and plot-that while boosting ridiculous theories like ZKK, Zoro being a Ryuma reincarnation, or to go way back, talking about how Sanji was going to solo Katakuri and could change the future, are excellent. :gokulaugh:
And yet no one is even talking about Zoro aside from you lol. But if retconning Luffy's fruit into a God Zoan against all narrative sense makes you happy because you believe that it will mean you are right about the conclusion of the fight, by all means keep stroking in your corner.
 
I’m gonna say something wild but please consider this

This DF has evaded the government for 800 years. That means it must have done it EVEN IN DF FORM when no one had eaten it… How the fuck did it do that?

What if it somehow still has its reality warping powers EVEN IN DF FORM… Shanks somehow managed to steal the exact DF needed to be brought to Luffy… What if this was all the mind of the DF doing some kinda reality warping shit to make this happen
Some lotr rings of power shenanigans are into play here.
 
The execution is poor.
If in the next chapters Oda emphasizes that it's impossible to awaken or even use that fruit except with supreme effort-dedication-creativity to even access its initial powers, which is why no one was able to use it let alone awaken it for 800 years, would it be better at least? I think that'll tend to be the case, since Oda blur the lines so that the guys with best effort and power get the best fruits and swords as well.

Look at Kaidou, if he doesnt have dragon fruit then it'll be at least a bit questionable whether he's the true WSC. People can also say he is carried by his DF, boosting you with a thousand elemental abilities-durability-endurance. But without his competence in using it in combat and harmonizing dragon powers with his original combat technique like Drunken Bagua, he wont be able to do zigzagging maneuver since he stole from Luffy with Thieving Drunk Mode and use FS to incorporate it.

Oda does this to the strongest of characters. They have the best techniques, best effort, best creativity, which is why they are worthy to wield the best DFs and Swords and use their max potential.
 
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We know this a fact

All Haki has 3 levels.
Observation Haki
level 1-Presence sensing or aura detection]
Level 2- Sensing what opponent will do( we saw this in the katakuri fight shortly before Pudding shot Luffy)
level 3- Extreme far presence sensinng, or Future Sight, or Far hearing

Armament Haki -
level 1- Basic Invinsible Armamer and Koka hardening
level 2- Barrier/ Emission/ sheild haki
level 3- Internal Destruction Haki

Conqueros Haki
Level 1 -Knockign out and taming living creatues
level2 - Coating it and emitting it like Barrier Haki
level 3-???? (Shanks and Roger are here). This is what Roger and SHanks use to fight Yonko. It is only available to COC Specialists. Luffy will get this to fight Blackbeard.
I hope you are right.
 

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𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
Well that is a vague answer, explain to me where you think the execution is poor so I can either agree or disagree
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Oda completely contradicts himself with the concept of "freedom". Gomu Gomu no Mi is a Legendary Fruit that "avoided" the World Government for 800 years and it ended up in the possession of a kid who resembles people of the previous eras that happened to not be chosen by fate ( I'm talking about Roger and Joyboy here ).

Luffy is free as a person but his fate was sealed a long time ago.
 
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Oda completely contradicts himself with the concept of "freedom". Gomu Gomu no Mi is a Legendary Fruit that "avoided" the World Government for 800 years and it ended up in the possession of a kid who resembles people of the previous eras that happened to not be chosen by fate ( I'm talking about Roger and Joyboy here ).

Luffy is free as a person but his fate was sealed a long time ago.
I still think this contradiction was made on purpose, Luffy will very soon have to face off with the reality he was the chosen one after all
How Luffy reacts to the prophecy will make his character IMO
 
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