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Don't know if anyone talked about it yet, I wanted to leave this for the discussion thread but whatever:

On the opening of the borders:

It is confirmed that opening Wano's borders is a precondition to gaining access to Pluton. In his time, Oden was adamant about opening the borders at a certain time (due to knowledge he gained during his excursion).

However, Momo has told Zunisha and us that he will not be opening the borders yet.
What does that mean for the story going forward?

Wano has been too long already, so going back to it at a later point to open the borders and retreive Pluton will be redundant.
At the same time, off-screening that moment doesn't make any sense either. It has been built up as an important point not only narratively but historically within the OP world. It is important for us to witness that moment as it is happening.
Which means we need to have a main character (read - a Strawhat) present for it.
But Zunisha has been sent away by Momo, which means, as of now, the borders are staying closed.

Since all the other major plotpoints have been solved (Green Bull left, Shanks didn't even enter, Momo is shogun) all we have left is lore regarding the Road Poneglyphs.

From the info we have now, the borders will not be opened now which means we will have to come back to Wano again
Right,but the gorosei mentioned that it seems like that they don‘t want to open the borders yet so the might have a smart one in their ranks .
So the gorosei might know about wanos connection to pluton ,not exactly that is is in wano but they are connected to it.
They will come back because of Pluton because i think its needed for the story.
But at the same time we learned Wano is an Natural Fortress because of its build ,would they revive Pluton ,Wano would lose its natural protection against the outside world and would be an easy target .
And as of now they don‘t know whats Plutons real reason for its existence is .
Sukijaki himself said even him has not seen it or doesn‘t know more details .
Sure Oden wanted to open the borders ,but he himself knew it would take 20 years for the right time.
 
The borders will open once luffy finds the one piece. Sukiyaki says that Oden found out why he needs to open the borders out in the sea so it’s likely written in laugh tale
Makes sense now that I think about it. Laugh Tale will reveal why the Ancient Weapons are necessary in the first place which will make the Strawhats go for Pluton and Shirahoshi (which will lead to the destruction of Fishman Island)
 

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Great they were partying, must mean they're on life support now lol. Again, when the crew leaves Wano all patched up we can talk about this again.
you can party while hurt no problem and whether they leave patched up or not doesn't mean anything but it means that they were when GB invaded
 
Ryoukugyu cant leave till he restores Wano somehow. Oda utilised a basic enough plot point being the random Yonko Crew stopping the Admiral from hurting Momo. But the basic plotline with Greenbull restoring Wano with his fruit is literally right there.

Now we know 3 things about Ryou:-

- Hes an Akainu fanboy
- Hes determined to bring Luffy's head
- He has a plant Logia

His Plant Logia just showed the ability to psedou clone himself or regrow himself. So what if he pretended to leave but planted a seed of himself into the ground. Once he and the Yonko crew leave.....he resprouts from that plant and carries on towards the allaince.

I know its highly unlikely....but I just dont see GB leaving till his power restores Wano somehow.

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If what I stated above does truly happen....then 1055 is just a souless Shanks hype chap specifically to hype the movie. If GB ends up coming back....Shanks effectively did nothing.

Again highly unlikely. But still a possibility.
 
you can party while hurt no problem and whether they leave patched up or not doesn't mean anything but it means that they were when GB invaded
No you can't. When you're too injured to move and are recovering you can't jump and goof around on party's and still defend the notion that they were so damn injured lol.

It means a lot. The crew leaves when they've recovered. If they leave patched up it either means they're still injured or bandages don't mean shit which we already know is the case but since it's convenient you're acting like they do.
 

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No you can't. When you're too injured to move and are recovering you can't jump and goof around on party's and still defend the notion that they were so damn injured lol.

It means a lot. The crew leaves when they've recovered. If they leave patched up it either means they're still injured or bandages don't mean shit which we already know is the case but since it's convenient you're acting like they do.
that depends on how injured they are, and they are injured when GB appeared
 
We see Shanks holding his sword up, he's doing an attack similar to the moves he does in the games.
Where do you see him "holding up" his sword? He just holds onto it while it sticks to his waist.



Guys are tripping if they think Shanks needs to unleash his sword to use CoC bursts. It doesn't even make sense. Explain why he would need to do that. Even if he unleashed it, it could be for artistic reasons, like Fujitora uses his gravity always along with his blade, even when summoning meteors. Doesn't mean he loses the power to use gravity if he loses his sword. People acting brain dead.
 
Ryoukugyu cant leave till he restores Wano somehow. Oda utilised a basic enough plot point being the random Yonko Crew stopping the Admiral from hurting Momo. But the basic plotline with Greenbull restoring Wano with his fruit is literally right there.

Now we know 3 things about Ryou:-

- Hes an Akainu fanboy
- Hes determined to bring Luffy's head
- He has a plant Logia

His Plant Logia just showed the ability to psedou clone himself or regrow himself. So what if he pretended to leave but planted a seed of himself into the ground. Once he and the Yonko crew leave.....he resprouts from that plant and carries on towards the allaince.

I know its highly unlikely....but I just dont see GB leaving till his power restores Wano somehow.

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If what I stated above does truly happen....then 1055 is just a souless Shanks hype chap specifically to hype the movie. If GB ends up coming back....Shanks effectively did nothing.

Again highly unlikely. But still a possibility.
Luffy zoro sanji jinbe looking at the momo vs an admiral fight makes it known that they don't take admirals seriously anymore. If greenbull evens trying blinking to hard when Shanks leaves he is finished regardless
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Greenbull is fodder but he’s still negs Zoro btw
He does negg zoro in being a character more trash. That I agree with
 
Luffy zoro sanji jinbe looking at the momo vs an admiral fight makes it known that they don't take admirals seriously anymore. If greenbull evens trying blinking to hard when Shanks leaves he is finished regardless
Sanji stated that they were about to intercept if it werent for Shanks.

And Yamato herself said that Luffy and the others are needed to stand a chance against him
 
Where do you see him "holding up" his sword? He just holds onto it while it sticks to his waist.



Guys are tripping if they think Shanks needs to unleash his sword to use CoC bursts. It doesn't even make sense. Explain why he would need to do that. Even if he unleashed it, it could be for artistic reasons, like Fujitora uses his gravity always along with his blade, even when summoning meteors. Doesn't mean he loses the power to use gravity if he loses his sword. People acting brain dead.
They’re so dumb. This isn’t a sword feat. Not even close.

Shanks being a hakiman is real and their minds can’t process it.
 
Sanji stated that they were about to intercept if it werent for Shanks.

And Yamato herself said that Luffy and the others are needed against him.
Agreed. Which means if Shanks left greenbull getting clapped regardless lol
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They’re so dumb. This isn’t a sword feat. Not even close.

Shanks being a hakiman is real and their minds can’t process it.
There is no such thing as a haki man since all individuals who use haki have a form of fighting
 
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