Who’s a better villain?


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Seth

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Rayleigh training was less effective than just gaining exp through new world
luffy jumped to yc1 + by actually fighting people .
Of course and I said that Lucci was on the run.

Being on the run =/= blooming you Haki in fights. He wasn't effectively fighting people on his level or slightly above so he could bloom his haki and learn new techniques.

He is definitely adjusted by Oda now but he is nowhere near top Commanders ballpark. I'd first had to see him go through Jack then we can discuss anything higher. Jack or Jack alike level fighter.
 
Dude, Big Mom is a major exception, she was a freak of nature ever since birth.
right
but your point made it seem like it was impossible for a cp0 agent to get that strong
I explained technically
there's no cap yet on how strong they might be .


tldr oda can make them as strong as the plot demands
problem?
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Of course and I said that Lucci was on the run.

Being on the run =/= blooming you Haki in fights. He wasn't effectively fighting people on his level or slightly above so he could bloom his haki and learn new techniques.

He is definitely adjusted by Oda now but he is nowhere near top Commanders ballpark. I'd first had to see him go through Jack then we can discuss anything higher. Jack or Jack alike level fighter.
on the run entire time
and went from cp9 to cp0

fairs .
 
right
but your point made it seem like it was impossible for a cp0 agent to get that strong
I explained technically
there's no cap yet on how strong they might be .

tldr oda can make them as strong as the plot demands
problem?
Yes and he can also make Chopper Pirate King level or have Otama defeat Imu!!!!

The fact that you think Oda being able to do something makes it okay is just hilarious:luffylaugh:

You're really coming off as a Goda shill right now
 
Yes and he can also make Chopper Pirate King level or have Otama defeat Imu!!!!

The fact that you think Oda being able to do something makes it okay is just hilarious:luffylaugh:

You're really coming off as a Goda shill right now
lol I know Oda's on some fuckery
what I won't do is use it to justify why am wrong in an argument .

imagine I talk big game about zkk
and when the L comes I say its all about oda being dense.
would you take that ?


be realistic
you know lucci won't be low diffed
you've seen luffy all arc
hes not moving like kaido , he never will no matter how strong he gets.
 
Oda casually hinting at a space arc again:



Enels DF would be perfect for Vegpunk yo use too...

Also this arc has an atompunk/futuretro/70s sci-fi and thus space themed setting too...
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Luffy is Joyboy, Jinbei is the All Blue, Sanji is the One Piece and Nami is Imu, welp.
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Lmao true. Judge is even grabbing him too, so Judge does have haki?!
Luffy and the gang will go on a spaceship built by Vegapunk and go to the Moon. The ancient power source lies there.

 
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