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Hakiless swords vs. a Tekkai user. What's your point? Pre TS Shiryu (high tier) was said to be as strong and even more dangerous than Magellan with his ridiculously lethal DF. Oden clapped Kaido out of the skies with one blow and gave him life long trauma, putting him in the same ballpark as Shanks, Roger, Whitebeard and Xebec.
haki is invisible unless you're using hardening. probably both people using haki in that clash.
 
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