Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1077 Spoilers Discussion

[Tyki_Mikk]

King durability was on point, great endurance, great speed and power, overall for me the better Marco.
My rank so far for the firstmates:
King>Katakuri>Marco.
Every firstmate had something unique:
King his lunarian power+ancient df
Katakuri his Future sight and awakening
Marco his Df with insane regen and overall good states.
I can´t wait to see what Ben has as unique powers...

 

[wys]

why is this a thing when ryokougan attacks internally???zoro literally stabbed through kings suit and into his stomach is that not damaging him internally or am i missing something??? Because that did absolutely nothing to flame on king.

i was wrong ...

 

[lando997]

If Oda writes every Seraphim losing purely because they turned their flame off unnecessarily then he is a terrible writer.

Don't introduce an overpowered ability if you're gonna write yourself in circles to manage it.

The only way Lunarian abilities make sense is if ACoC/top-tier AP is required to damage them with their flame-on. Or if a character is so strong that the Lunarian needs their flame-off otherwise they might not lose but they definitely can't win, e.g - why King would have his flame off vs Aramaki.

Oda restricting Luffy and Zoro's ACoC thus far is extremely telling. They're here using high-end attacks from their rooftop versions - that tells me that their current high-end attacks are overkill and Oda is trying to maintain tension. As well as not having Zoro brutally maim literal children.

We already knew Shi Shishi Sonson was ineffective vs flame-on Lunarians as King no-sold rooftop Zoro's. We already knew rooftop Zoro's AP was rooftop G4+ level as FDB was the first attack Kaido dodged. So really this chapter tells us nothing we didn't already know. It only comes as a shock as people either didn't want to admit how tough King is or couldn't correctly process it in their mind. We already knew flame-on King's defense was above Kaido's, so Luffy comparing a Lunarian to Kaido here is no surprise. The same Zoro that scarred Kaido thought there was no point in attacking a Lunarian with their flame-on. And Zoro remains the only person in the manga to ever scare a Lunarian in defense mode.

Perfectly Said.

Oda is very obviously restricted the use of ACOC, even to the degree that Zoro & Luffy are frustrated and resigned to needing to know the Lunarian weakness before even trying the most powerful ability within their Arsenal (ACOC)

Wtf?

If ACOC/hax powers doesn't work and the seraphims has to voluntarily leave their flame mood for "whenever reasons" the plot constructs [DF usages, speed mode, etc] then it's just too convenient and they will no answer to the hypothetical scenario of whether anyone can best a Lunarian's defense.

No limit fallacy in essence.

 

[L55]

King negs queen jack and the tobi roppo combined
He does the same with the sweet commanders

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Yonkou Luffy struggling with Lunarians

Post automatically merged: Mar 7, 2023

Yonkou Luffy struggling with Lunarians defense 🤣🤣🤣

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Why they always forget to mention everything related to sanji when he does somthing really great ???

He is fighting a seraphim ALONE without any help from a giraffe enemy !!!

But when a joke about him wanting to be stussy’s Dog in a little panel and A GAG dialogue..he was the first to be mentioned in the spoilers that everyone started hating on him before even the full summary was released !!!!!

My boy sanji is suffering from success that even the leakers are so jealous!!! GOSH HE IS AMAZING
:cheers:

NO
BODY
GIVES
A
SHIT
ABOUT
STUSSYS
DOG

 

[Patryipe]

And to think unparalleled durability is just one tool in the Lunarian arsenal

They still have Jackpot and control of magma-like flames

All you need to know about King is that Vegapunk saw him and decided to build the ultimate army based on him.

 

[Goodman Grey]

Wasn't expecting such an action packed chapter
Hyped for strawhats vs the seraphim. I'm glad Nami is getting some action, and I hope Ussop gets to do something.

 

[Seth]

Yeah One Piece isn't really about the fights for me. But when it is fight piece, Oda is all about matchups rather than stats (because there aren't any). Sometimes it's even just the symbolism that explains who wins.

From my memory Yamato took Ulti out, couldn't do much against Kaido and then was running around for the rest of the arc. More or less makes sense to me.

I wouldn't bother. Unfortunately it's labelled as battle shonen so I will power scale even if I don't have to.

If it was just adventure shonen I wouldn't talk about it much.

Yeah, Yamato KO'ed Ulti from point blank attack for few seconds.

 

[yorosenpai]

To people coping and saying that Zoro can’t damage flame on Lunarians, Oda drew the exact same scene twice to get it through your skull

WORO would had chopped Laido's dragon form in 1000pieces lucky that Loda gave him plot armor

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

What happened to my guy Brook? Wasn’t he with Edison and Nami?

 

[T.D.A]

Without prior knowledge, King isn't an easy fight even for top tiers.

 

[HeroesNZ]

Zoro vs king

1. I need to figure out how his body works to stand a chance
2. I need to hit him while his flame is off because otherwise its meaningless
3. King giving zoro lowkey props for figuring it out how his body works
4. Zoro only hurt him the whole fight while his flame was off

5) Zoro not giving af about whether King's flame was on or off and simply using more ACoC to win

 

[Julius]

King negs queen jack and the tobi roppo combined
He does the same with the sweet commanders

Queen literally just has to spam Sparking Queen on his ass

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

strongest beings. cope. every seraphim is yonko tier

 

[Wonder]

That’s because luffy kept leaving mirror world to give both time to recover stamina and haki.

Luffy's been cheesing boss fights by recovering health outside the aggro zone all timeskip

 

[Seth]

What happened to my guy Brook? Wasn’t he with Edison and Nami?

He's dead.

YOHOHOHO.

My God I'm getting old.

 

[ShadowStyle369]

I need a moment where luffy is like:

Luffy: Zoro they won't go out of flame on mode we aren't getting anywhere like this, how did you make him turn it off.

Zoro:Starts unleashing coc

Luffy:see's future of him doing it

In a sick double page spread we see luffy and zoro unleash there adv coc and the seraphim show fear

 

[Patryipe]

Still, how the fuck did the Lunarians get wiped out?

Oda is gonna come up with some bullshit that if you make them laugh the flame disappears and the WG wiped them out with SMILE fruits or somethig.

 

[JoNdule]

King durability was on point, great endurance, great speed and power, overall for me the better Marco.
My rank so far for the firstmates:
King>Katakuri>Marco.
Every firstmate had something unique:
King his lunarian power+ancient df
Katakuri his Future sight and awakening
Marco his Df with insane regen and overall good states.
I can´t wait to see what Ben has as unique powers...

How's is he better than Marco when Marco is faster with better endurance and stamina?

Oda only hyping his durability not endurance
King when he starts getting hit, he reaches limits quick