Is this the biggest single-chapter demolition of a character & fandom?


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At this point, Kidd's career is done. Whatever he does now, he'll always be the Moria of the current gen. Zoro definitely won the race, let alone Luffy.
Now it's Law's turn but I gotta admit, at least Law wasn't easily destroyed like that.

Only Blackbeard is Luffy's real rival.
i warned u ppl after ZKK , a lot wanked the shit out of deity portrayal but here we have Midd having a worse portrayal than Adv CoC YC level Oden ; now we are arguing Current Zoro being at least Prime Oden / Yonko level while Midd fans struggling with YC level lmao
 
What me triggers about the Chapter is not Kid losing. That he wont be able to win this battle was pretty clear from the beginning. Sure, I had the wet dream about him winning, but I knew the circumstances and chances for that are horrible small.



But what me triggers is the way how he loses. Oda makes him eat one simple attack and spits on everything Kid was build up before. Every storyprogress for him, everything his character stands for, every started plotline, buried in dust, just for stupid fakehype, for simple sales.



There is so much content, which Oda decides to just bury with Kid.



Beginning his whole character building in Saboady, together with Killer.

His plotline about Shanks Crew having fought him before. Some redemption hinted, in dust.

His plotline of raiding WCI and stealing what he wanted, hurting some commander. Burried in dust without explanation.

Kid having all types of Haki, incl. CoC, even mentioned by Kaido. Burried in dust, without any further mentioning.

Kids whole story about his crew and their relationship with each other, their adventures. Hinted, but buried in dust, without any further mentioning.

His plotline about “the man with the burned mark”, buried in dust, without any further mentioning.

His plotlines about asking questions in fights and learn out of it, buried in dust.



And this all is just the peak of the iceberg about Kids character which is one shoted buried in dust. For a government dog to get fake hype.



And what hurts me most with someone sympathizing with Kid and Killer, is the result for his crew and the Victoria Punk without any form of respect. This ship was some sentimental connection to the first love of Kid and Killer, her memorial somehow, the memory on the first love as ship. And it gets destroyed and drowned for nothing and with not the slightest form of respect. It not even gets thematized or mentioned. Oda clearly spits on everything around Kid. It’s a disgrace.





But at least Oda sends a clear message to his readers:

“It doesn’t matter how hard you work for you dreams, how strongminded you are, how much you give up for it. You wont reach your goal, as long as you are not from a legendary lineage and get trained by the best in the world. So, if you are born poor, stay like that, be a slave, don’t have dreams or hope. You are nothing, and you will stay nothing. Except you are rich and your lineage is legendary.”
I 100% agree
Bad writing, he should at least have similar clash like BB vs Law
But i guess he didn't have time
 
What me triggers about the Chapter is not Kid losing. That he wont be able to win this battle was pretty clear from the beginning. Sure, I had the wet dream about him winning, but I knew the circumstances and chances for that are horrible small.



But what me triggers is the way how he loses. Oda makes him eat one simple attack and spits on everything Kid was build up before. Every storyprogress for him, everything his character stands for, every started plotline, buried in dust, just for stupid fakehype, for simple sales.



There is so much content, which Oda decides to just bury with Kid.



Beginning his whole character building in Saboady, together with Killer.

His plotline about Shanks Crew having fought him before. Some redemption hinted, in dust.

His plotline of raiding WCI and stealing what he wanted, hurting some commander. Burried in dust without explanation.

Kid having all types of Haki, incl. CoC, even mentioned by Kaido. Burried in dust, without any further mentioning.

Kids whole story about his crew and their relationship with each other, their adventures. Hinted, but buried in dust, without any further mentioning.

His plotline about “the man with the burned mark”, buried in dust, without any further mentioning.

His plotlines about asking questions in fights and learn out of it, buried in dust.



And this all is just the peak of the iceberg about Kids character which is one shoted buried in dust. For a government dog to get fake hype.



And what hurts me most with someone sympathizing with Kid and Killer, is the result for his crew and the Victoria Punk without any form of respect. This ship was some sentimental connection to the first love of Kid and Killer, her memorial somehow, the memory on the first love as ship. And it gets destroyed and drowned for nothing and with not the slightest form of respect. It not even gets thematized or mentioned. Oda clearly spits on everything around Kid. It’s a disgrace.





But at least Oda sends a clear message to his readers:

“It doesn’t matter how hard you work for you dreams, how strongminded you are, how much you give up for it. You wont reach your goal, as long as you are not from a legendary lineage and get trained by the best in the world. So, if you are born poor, stay like that, be a slave, don’t have dreams or hope. You are nothing, and you will stay nothing. Except you are rich and your lineage is legendary.”
Man, Oda totally lost it. Especially regarding your last paragraph, I can't believe how Oda basically delivers this kind of message to the viewers. Is this really how Kidd was supposed to lose? A crushing defeat? With no hope of victory at all? Then what was the point of battling Kaido and Big Mom when Kidd had no chance against another Yonko in a 1vs1?

I think this is just the tip of the iceberg of what horrendous writing Oda might pull off in the future...
 
What me triggers about the Chapter is not Kid losing. That he wont be able to win this battle was pretty clear from the beginning. Sure, I had the wet dream about him winning, but I knew the circumstances and chances for that are horrible small.



But what me triggers is the way how he loses. Oda makes him eat one simple attack and spits on everything Kid was build up before. Every storyprogress for him, everything his character stands for, every started plotline, buried in dust, just for stupid fakehype, for simple sales.



There is so much content, which Oda decides to just bury with Kid.



Beginning his whole character building in Saboady, together with Killer.

His plotline about Shanks Crew having fought him before. Some redemption hinted, in dust.

His plotline of raiding WCI and stealing what he wanted, hurting some commander. Burried in dust without explanation.

Kid having all types of Haki, incl. CoC, even mentioned by Kaido. Burried in dust, without any further mentioning.

Kids whole story about his crew and their relationship with each other, their adventures. Hinted, but buried in dust, without any further mentioning.

His plotline about “the man with the burned mark”, buried in dust, without any further mentioning.

His plotlines about asking questions in fights and learn out of it, buried in dust.



And this all is just the peak of the iceberg about Kids character which is one shoted buried in dust. For a government dog to get fake hype.



And what hurts me most with someone sympathizing with Kid and Killer, is the result for his crew and the Victoria Punk without any form of respect. This ship was some sentimental connection to the first love of Kid and Killer, her memorial somehow, the memory on the first love as ship. And it gets destroyed and drowned for nothing and with not the slightest form of respect. It not even gets thematized or mentioned. Oda clearly spits on everything around Kid. It’s a disgrace.





But at least Oda sends a clear message to his readers:

“It doesn’t matter how hard you work for you dreams, how strongminded you are, how much you give up for it. You wont reach your goal, as long as you are not from a legendary lineage and get trained by the best in the world. So, if you are born poor, stay like that, be a slave, don’t have dreams or hope. You are nothing, and you will stay nothing. Except you are rich and your lineage is legendary.”
Really great post who summon up the problems with Kid..
 

nik87

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I wasnt interested in Zoro vs Shanks but now that he has FS, I want them to fight. Killing all the birds with one stone. :zosmug:
EoS yeah
But surpassing Mihawj doesn't mean he's above Shanks

Shanks and Oden are above Mihawk
Time to accept this
Oda can't even make Oden and Shanks look bad against Kaido & WB
Time to accept that all you treasure in One Piece is going down the shitter. :saden:
 
I think this theme was rather clear ever since Wano/WCI happened. The top 3 strongest strawhats are all rather special, Luffy is Nika the chosen one, Sanji is a product of genetics seeking perfection and even Zoro the hard-working one is from the bloodline of Ryuma. Destiny in One Piece is real and if it doesn't choose you, well good luck next time.


Saint Shanks reveal will hopefully be done well.
He's worked harder than anyone. You can't be chosen with haki and being chosen one doesn't help you awaken a fruit that wasn't awakened for 800 years.
 
What me triggers about the Chapter is not Kid losing. That he wont be able to win this battle was pretty clear from the beginning. Sure, I had the wet dream about him winning, but I knew the circumstances and chances for that are horrible small.



But what me triggers is the way how he loses. Oda makes him eat one simple attack and spits on everything Kid was build up before. Every storyprogress for him, everything his character stands for, every started plotline, buried in dust, just for stupid fakehype, for simple sales.



There is so much content, which Oda decides to just bury with Kid.



Beginning his whole character building in Saboady, together with Killer.

His plotline about Shanks Crew having fought him before. Some redemption hinted, in dust.

His plotline of raiding WCI and stealing what he wanted, hurting some commander. Burried in dust without explanation.

Kid having all types of Haki, incl. CoC, even mentioned by Kaido. Burried in dust, without any further mentioning.

Kids whole story about his crew and their relationship with each other, their adventures. Hinted, but buried in dust, without any further mentioning.

His plotline about “the man with the burned mark”, buried in dust, without any further mentioning.

His plotlines about asking questions in fights and learn out of it, buried in dust.



And this all is just the peak of the iceberg about Kids character which is one shoted buried in dust. For a government dog to get fake hype.



And what hurts me most with someone sympathizing with Kid and Killer, is the result for his crew and the Victoria Punk without any form of respect. This ship was some sentimental connection to the first love of Kid and Killer, her memorial somehow, the memory on the first love as ship. And it gets destroyed and drowned for nothing and with not the slightest form of respect. It not even gets thematized or mentioned. Oda clearly spits on everything around Kid. It’s a disgrace.





But at least Oda sends a clear message to his readers:

“It doesn’t matter how hard you work for you dreams, how strongminded you are, how much you give up for it. You wont reach your goal, as long as you are not from a legendary lineage and get trained by the best in the world. So, if you are born poor, stay like that, be a slave, don’t have dreams or hope. You are nothing, and you will stay nothing. Except you are rich and your lineage is legendary.”
Welcome to One Piece rants.

Suffer through it, like we suffered throughout the decade (2012-22).
This is what One Piece truly is, everything else is fake hype to milk the series.
Yes, I am a Shanks fan. But, even I thought Kid pirates will be saved somehow.
Oda is all talk, no action. He should write a novel, manga is not his thing.
And no, it is not about head canon, it is about the story itself. You cant do random shit for shock value and call it a masterpiece and give shut up call to those who criticize these basic mistakes.
Again, I hate narration boxes in One Piece. It is final saga, and Oda is still relying on them for fake hype. If the event on Egghead shook the world, then why dont he show it on panel? Same for Revolutionary Army vs WG.
It is the fan base who allowed Oda to keep doing this shit. I hope they are enjoying it.
 
SO this is absically what happened ? .
Shanks faced kid.
Kid use awakenings ! SHanks use fs to see wtf is going to happen .
SHanks say hell no !
Proceed to use one of his strongest move to beat kid before it happen ?
SHanks is not like kaido and BM he do not play. Good job kids to have at least force shanks using fs. Kaido begun using fs on Luffy gear 4 acoc.
 
It's the nature of Kings toughness, not his combat skills. Marco managed to keep up with all his abilities and even overpowered him several times. Also Luffy would be annoyed by Marco's regen.
Marco's regeneration has a limit , also Marco never pushed King to the limit RT Zoro pushed , RT Zoro broke his mask he made him mad to the point he used Hybrid Form , and that's around 10 min of fighting while Marco vs King was 30 min and he was seen on the ground tired .
 
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