Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1085 Spoilers Discussion
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King and Marco don't need Advanced Haki forms with their gimmicks.
King was handling Zoro easily before the AdvCoC upgrade. He would wash Sanji.
Marco has experience for years and nothing Sanji will damage him. Sanji would need AdvCoA to pose a little threat to Marco let alone to the rest.
For now he goes to sleep from using Ifrit Jambe with regular CoA
King was handling Zoro easily before the AdvCoC upgrade. He would wash Sanji.
Marco has experience for years and nothing Sanji will damage him. Sanji would need AdvCoA to pose a little threat to Marco let alone to the rest.
For now he goes to sleep from using Ifrit Jambe with regular CoA
Queen is a weakling in comparison to Katakuri lol. He's Big Mom's strongest commander, is awakened and has CoC. Queen is a sitting duck getting owned by Katakuri. I ain't dickthroating anything, I don't like dicks but keep the same energy because you are blowjobbing to Sanji dodging a jellybean bruh.
King was faster than Zoro and it's irrelevant.
If this retarded logic worked then Kizaru is the Strongest character in the series because his fruit allows him to be faster than everyone else.
Sanji is league below Zoro in ap. LMFAO dude.
Zoro defeats Sanji with minimal difficulty. Sanji can't use Ifrit Jambe for a prolonged period of time. He passed out after one attack when he combined Ifrit with Regular CoA.
Zoro has AdvCoA and AdvCoC and his base ap is already enough to fuck up Sanji.
If this retarded logic worked then Kizaru is the Strongest character in the series because his fruit allows him to be faster than everyone else.
Sanji is league below Zoro in ap. LMFAO dude.
Zoro defeats Sanji with minimal difficulty. Sanji can't use Ifrit Jambe for a prolonged period of time. He passed out after one attack when he combined Ifrit with Regular CoA.
Zoro has AdvCoA and AdvCoC and his base ap is already enough to fuck up Sanji.
YC debate in a nutshell
Marco was able to stall people here and there but never managed to hurt any serious opponent. He's a strong guy for NW standards but hes not among the low top tier fighters.
Katakuri is a bum and a disgrace to even bring him up in any debate. He lost to Luffy without even acoa/acoc, the same Luffy who couldnt even scratch Meme.
King's downplay is the usual Zoro's opponents hate. Oda literally used his dna to make the upgraded pacifistas but lets ignore that and call him weak despite the fact that nobody in Egghead managed to damage the Serakids till now.
Shanks asked Marco to join him.
Meme asked King to join her.
Zero fucks given for Kata. Even when Luffy got his 5th emperor title the defeat of Katakuri wasnt highlighted and he fell in the same category as Cracker.
Marco was able to stall people here and there but never managed to hurt any serious opponent. He's a strong guy for NW standards but hes not among the low top tier fighters.
Katakuri is a bum and a disgrace to even bring him up in any debate. He lost to Luffy without even acoa/acoc, the same Luffy who couldnt even scratch Meme.
King's downplay is the usual Zoro's opponents hate. Oda literally used his dna to make the upgraded pacifistas but lets ignore that and call him weak despite the fact that nobody in Egghead managed to damage the Serakids till now.
Shanks asked Marco to join him.
Meme asked King to join her.
Zero fucks given for Kata. Even when Luffy got his 5th emperor title the defeat of Katakuri wasnt highlighted and he fell in the same category as Cracker.
I think Sanji only reaches G4 with IJ. Maybe it deals more damage than a simple Kong Gun but keep in mind that Sanji will struggle extremely hard to even land a few hits on Katakuri. Even Snake Man needed +10 hits after considering that Katakuri 1) was heavily exhausted for 9h, 2) battled with an open torso and took hits from base Luffy in the last 1-2h before fighting Snake Man. I think Sanji pushes Katakuri to high-extreme diff which is a considerable stance considering how strong Kuri is.
Anyway if the gorosei are reintroduced as fighters at this point (monster shadows for sure hint at that at the very least), that probably means they are actually stronger than Kaido and BM, otherwise it would be pointless (at least if they are not the tobi roppos of Im, or at best his YCs). Then there is also to see the role of the holy knights. So this is most likely Oda who is starting to build the roof above BM and Kaido level.
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