Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1094 Spoilers Discussion

Why did Saturn transform?


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Bro, how???



This is Luffy going all out.
Island scale attacks.

Both Luffy & Kizaru haven't gone all out yet, they've just stalled each other so far.
That move took like half of chapter to charge, there is no way this would fly with Kizaru
Heck even if Luffy managed to charge it we saw Kizaru moving several kilometers away in like a second against Snakeman.
Bajrang Gun is literally pointless against Kizaru
Nobody will argue that Luffy was not serious against Katakuri because he didn't use KKG.
 
Not the point.

When Luffy goes All Out, he is capable of operating at an Island wide scale. We saw none of that against Kizaru yet.
That is really a poor argument dude
Operating at an island level against Kizaru only puts him at a disadvantage

Reminds me of Smoker vs Vergo where Smoker couldn't use his fruit properly due to Vergo having superior haki

Luffy is already using his peak form with all its enhanced phyiscals including strength and speed, and he has his haki
He can pull more attack power with shit like Bajrang but again thats counter intuitive
 

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That isnt working here though.

Gear 5 is not just Boundman, it is every Gear application before it on a whole new level in a single package.

There is honestly no argument tbh to say that we have seen everything out of Gear 5 & that Kizaru beats it when we actually havent. Offpaneling doesnt excuse this.
We will never see everything out of Gear 5, not even at EOS as it's limitless in what it can come up with based on situation. That's not the point here, I'm talking about the tools Luffy has, he has used anything and everything he possibly could given the current situation. He himself is pretty much admitting he is hitting his limit rn, something even Kizaru points out.

We cannot say the same for Kizaru when it comes to taking on Luffy. If we're being completely objective here, Kizaru seems far more casual than Luffy does so far. Maybe it won't end up being the case, but that's definitely the way this fight looks and feels. It helps because we already know Luffy is using all of his mastered haki and his peak form burning through all of his stamina, Kizaru is still kind of an unknown, but the optics undoubtably make Luffy look bad in comparison to Kizaru here.

That's why this moment is so important, the one big attack should have gotten a bigger reaction out of Kizaru. It would atleast be a little rewarding for all the effort Luffy is putting in. Luffy is burning through his stamina and haki and the payoff is what looks like an unfazed reaction from Kizaru.
 
Know whats funny? This Yonko vs. Admiral debate likely will never end lmao.

Lets hypothetically say that in any case, a future villain is stronger than the last. OK, so then Kizaru > Kaido, making Admirals > Yonko.

But then look out! Shanks or Blackbeard from the sky! Now the argument flips again!

But wait! AKAINU! SNIP SNAP SNIP SNAP

BUT WAIT!!!!! Shanks or Blackbeard if only one lost above! Back to Yonko!

Or maybe Akainu ends up outlasting the Yonko. So then Admirals:sanmoji:

This is why yall should place your bets in old man stock. Not only does Imu seem like the FV, Saturn alone seems to command a totally different presence vs. anyone else here lol.

And I say this as a Shanks bro lol
Fleet Admiral > Admiral
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Gorosei being fighters isn’t common knowledge
 
Know whats funny? This Yonko vs. Admiral debate likely will never end lmao.

Lets hypothetically say that in any case, a future villain is stronger than the last. OK, so then Kizaru > Kaido, making Admirals > Yonko.

But then look out! Shanks or Blackbeard from the sky! Now the argument flips again!

But wait! AKAINU! SNIP SNAP SNIP SNAP

BUT WAIT!!!!! Shanks or Blackbeard if only one lost above! Back to Yonko!

Or maybe Akainu ends up outlasting the Yonko. So then Admirals:sanmoji:

This is why yall should place your bets in old man stock. Not only does Imu seem like the FV, Saturn alone seems to command a totally different presence vs. anyone else here lol.

And I say this as a Shanks bro lol
I don’t mind the debate. But much of the fanbase was certain that Kizaru would get neg diffed in less than a chapter.
 
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