ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1103 "I'M SORRY, FATHER"

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Kuma is using haki in this very chapter.
Kuma still has his DF--which only binds with a person's soul.
Both prove that Kuma is not a senseless robot. The real him is still in there. Now for the last miracle we only need Nika's drums to sound--then Kuma the Martyr will see that he needs struggle no longer and that he can die a peaceful death, knowing that his daughter is save in the Sun God's hands.
hopely we will see him again back concious, about the df and haki, cmiiw stella already stated that his ability and his combat prowess stay only his conciousness gone.
 
Kizaru never knocked Luffy out lol
Luffy exhausted himself out and knocked the fuck out of Kizaru.
And it is plot both of them are not up and running yet, Oda needs to move the plot forward and with two power houses wandering around it is more difficult.

This literally happens EVERY arc.
Luffys literally on the ground exhausted and unable to get up because he fought Kizaru. If he didn’t fight Kizaru he wouldn’t be in this condition. And Kizaru also wasn’t knocked out but he needed a minute to recuperate because he fought luffy.

It’s literally that Kizaru and Luffys fight ended in a draw so far where both needed to rest. Arguably kizarus better off since luffy is in need of outside help to recover while Kizaru seems to be getting up on his own.
 
That 8th thing was suppose to be ginny is 8th wife of some CD , got to like bad translations lol .
Maybe, I thought it was related to family. Like, lady from the 8th family.
Because they have lots of wives. Charlos itself has more than a dozen..
But you seen to be correct. The way things are going, Bonney will be Kuma's child even if he never touched Ginny.
 
Luffys literally on the ground exhausted and unable to get up because he fought Kizaru. If he didn’t fight Kizaru he wouldn’t be in this condition. And Kizaru also wasn’t knocked out but he needed a minute to recuperate because he fought luffy.

It’s literally that Kizaru and Luffys fight ended in a draw so far where both needed to rest. Arguably kizarus better off since luffy is in need of outside help to recover while Kizaru seems to be getting up on his own.
I won't be discussing obvious stuff, no attack Kizaru landed or made knocked Luffy out on the other hand Luffy knocked Kizaru out with a single punch.
That's the reality of this fight, Kizaru isn't better than anyone getting one shot despite your delusions.

He still isn't moving and won't be able to until Luffy is already up.
That's the reality.

Also in fact Kizaru did WORSE than Doflamingo against Gear 4, whom used the same tactic of running away the entire fucking fight in order to tire Luffy out difference is, Gear 5 knocked Kizaru out and Gear 4 didn't knock Doflamingo out in the first round.
 
It's the obvious answer, plot demands it.

Just like Kizaru will only be on his feet once Luffy gets up as well, Oda has been doing stuff like this for ages. Luffy cannot save Bonney AND Kuma if Kuma isn't there fighting (and losing to) Saturn first. Kizaru can't be left wandering around if Luffy isn't up first.
Like we had Kuma saving Bonney before luffy and Kizaru can come back everyone saw that coming .
The spoiler made seem like bonney was putting up fight but she was still getting trash .
Now they both here maybe Oda can move on with Luffy , Kizaru , Lucci , Zoro plot points .
 
I won't be discussing obvious stuff, no attack Kizaru landed or made knocked Luffy out on the other hand Luffy knocked Kizaru out with a single punch.
That's the reality of this fight, Kizaru isn't better than anyone getting one shot despite your delusions.

He still isn't moving and won't be able to until Luffy is already up.
That's the reality.
Again just because Gear 5 takes the hit doesn’t mean luffy doesn’t take damage. Look at luffy was unconscious for a week after the Kaido fight.

And look at reality, Luffy NEVER knocked Kizaru out. When the fight ended bro was still very conscious, and he’s literally already moving. Or do you think someone walked over to Kizaru and sat him up for him?

They’ll both get up at the same time to continue the fight, but you can’t refute that luffy and Kizaru are in these conditions because of their fight. It’s literally a draw if you would stop trying to force this lame one shot agenda
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If only people learned to read, Sir.
True luffy must be exhausted because he ran laps around Egghead, not cause he was fighting Kizaru. Clearly Kizaru must’ve had no part in luffys current condition…
 
Like we had Kuma saving Bonney before luffy and Kizaru can come back everyone saw that coming .
The spoiler made seem like bonney was putting up fight but she was still getting trash .
Now they both here maybe Oda can move on with Luffy , Kizaru , Lucci , Zoro plot points .
Yeah people dive way too deep in powerscalling we Oda showed time and time again he will thrown powerscalling out of the window if plot demands it.
 
Is there a limit to how much Saturn can hold people down?
:quest:

I guess he is putting so much effort into holding Sanji and Franky that he can't do shit anymore, thats why he is asking fodder to do shit, and he also didn't stop Kuma from moving

Next chapter will probably answer this :quest:
 
kill HATEURN kuma! destroy him. SANJI GET A GRIP! both you and luffy and even zoro team up against saturn! somebody help kuma! awaken conquers haki sanji so u can save bonny and kuma. Zoro, please appear. so much is going to happen next chapter i can feel it! the 3 weeks better be worth the wait!
 
Is there a limit to how much Saturn can hold people down?
:quest:

I guess he is putting so much effort into holding Sanji and Franky that he can't do shit anymore, thats why he is asking fodder to do shit, and he also didn't stop Kuma from moving

Next chapter will probably answer this :quest:
We’ll probably get this answer in the next two chapters. Hell probably try to use it on kuma
 
That don't mean shit when we see how Oda uses CoO in the manga.
People only notice shit when he want them to or come in handy when he wants them to .
Like i said with my kaido eg if shit had any consistency i would take it serious but it don't .( i can say same for other aspect without consistency )
Like i enjoy Op but it having consistency is be a no go with CoO , if some VA can't even notice shit and you suppose have both haki at good level to become a VA it's big WTF ever .
And I totally agree with you, as I said.

What I am trying to say is: if Oda wants, he has the plot basis to make everyone oblivious of what Kizaur might have done.
 
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