Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1111 Spoilers Discussion
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Agreed with the rest of the post, only thing is it's not Kaido's durability that'd allow him to tank multiple high-ends from Zoro. Durability doesn't matter to Zoro anymore, he cuts straight through anything with ACoC.
What matters more is endurance. Kaido is an endurance beast, far more so than the average top-tier. Big Mom's endurance is probably higher than the average top-tier's but it's not that great - she took Shockwave Wille about as well as Blackbeard, had to heal in-between attacks and even still, another Puncture Wille would've taken her out. I wouldn't see her tanking two Togen Totsukas for example, she'd deffo be dead. 2-3 Puncture Willes/KOH Asuras would definitely do the job. Whereas for Kaido, no chance.
E.g. - King had excellent durability even with his flame off. He no-sold an attack from rooftop Zoro, same Zoro who was cutting Kaido. And yet, King was mauled by DD. His durability couldn't hold up, his attack couldn't hold up, his defense couldn't hold up and his endurance couldn't hold up.
The difference between King and top-tiers is that top-tiers will have far stronger attacks which will help to negate damage in clashes (Zoro cut straight through King's final attack whereas Bajrang Gun was the only attack of Luffy's that wouldn't lose to Blazing Bagua). Top-tiers will have stronger defense (DD cut straight through King's blade but top-tiers will have stronger haki). Finally, top-tiers may have higher endurance.
If a top-tier is just standing still and letting Zoro hit them with a high-end without putting up a defense then sure, they can get one-shotted, two-shotted at worst. But in reality, to beat a top-tier you'll have to overcome them in a clash and that'll take serious AP. Or you could blitz them, but none of Zoro's high-ends are blitzing attacks. So could Zoro 1-2 shot an average top-tier like Kizaru with his strongest attacks? Possibly, but they'd have to be an actual sitting duck which is just not gonna happen lol.
TL;DR, Lucci tanking a mid-end attack from Zoro doesn't change much outside of radical fans who thought Zoro could one-shot Kaido. He still has one of the highest APs in the verse, case in point, he's scarred/maimed his last 3 opponents who were two YC1s and a high top-tier lol. Furthermore, in his latest feat he did so with a single mid-end attack. Hahava to Zoro is like base Thunder Bagua to Kaido - he has many more levels of attacks.
What matters more is endurance. Kaido is an endurance beast, far more so than the average top-tier. Big Mom's endurance is probably higher than the average top-tier's but it's not that great - she took Shockwave Wille about as well as Blackbeard, had to heal in-between attacks and even still, another Puncture Wille would've taken her out. I wouldn't see her tanking two Togen Totsukas for example, she'd deffo be dead. 2-3 Puncture Willes/KOH Asuras would definitely do the job. Whereas for Kaido, no chance.
E.g. - King had excellent durability even with his flame off. He no-sold an attack from rooftop Zoro, same Zoro who was cutting Kaido. And yet, King was mauled by DD. His durability couldn't hold up, his attack couldn't hold up, his defense couldn't hold up and his endurance couldn't hold up.
The difference between King and top-tiers is that top-tiers will have far stronger attacks which will help to negate damage in clashes (Zoro cut straight through King's final attack whereas Bajrang Gun was the only attack of Luffy's that wouldn't lose to Blazing Bagua). Top-tiers will have stronger defense (DD cut straight through King's blade but top-tiers will have stronger haki). Finally, top-tiers may have higher endurance.
If a top-tier is just standing still and letting Zoro hit them with a high-end without putting up a defense then sure, they can get one-shotted, two-shotted at worst. But in reality, to beat a top-tier you'll have to overcome them in a clash and that'll take serious AP. Or you could blitz them, but none of Zoro's high-ends are blitzing attacks. So could Zoro 1-2 shot an average top-tier like Kizaru with his strongest attacks? Possibly, but they'd have to be an actual sitting duck which is just not gonna happen lol.
TL;DR, Lucci tanking a mid-end attack from Zoro doesn't change much outside of radical fans who thought Zoro could one-shot Kaido. He still has one of the highest APs in the verse, case in point, he's scarred/maimed his last 3 opponents who were two YC1s and a high top-tier lol. Furthermore, in his latest feat he did so with a single mid-end attack. Hahava to Zoro is like base Thunder Bagua to Kaido - he has many more levels of attacks.
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Zoro and Sanji future opponents are Mythical Zoans Awakened Yokais ACoC users and portrayaled above Yonkou and Admirals.
Zoro and Sanji future opponents are Mythical Zoans Awakened Yokais ACoC users and portrayaled above Yonkou and Admirals.
Give up.
Let this sink in
Oda kept Zoro away from main drama
Then, he made jinbei carry zoro after zoro drenched Lucci in blood bath
Whereas he kept sanji in the main drama
And, made him stare diffed and then run away carrying VPs body
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Oda kept Zoro away from main drama
Then, he made jinbei carry zoro after zoro drenched Lucci in blood bath
Whereas he kept sanji in the main drama
And, made him stare diffed and then run away carrying VPs body
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Yes, her vibe changed. Nothing about the haki
Her haki defense shield was still the same one
1. Maybe Queen is physically stronger than Kid and Law?
2. Kid and Law were not hitting her in the head. Getting hit elsewhere but the head rarely makes people pass out
3. Queen's feat is not making Big Mom pass out, but cracking her bones.
It took Law to damage Meme internally and Kid to hit her with his attack to damage her bones.
Her haki defense shield was still the same one
1. Maybe Queen is physically stronger than Kid and Law?
2. Kid and Law were not hitting her in the head. Getting hit elsewhere but the head rarely makes people pass out
3. Queen's feat is not making Big Mom pass out, but cracking her bones.
It took Law to damage Meme internally and Kid to hit her with his attack to damage her bones.
I'm already sick of the words "goofy bullied" now that Nika has taken over his body, it's become his fighting style. But what is the outcome? He did not defeat Seraphim and ran away from him. Lucci did not win and ran away from him (Lucci was in excellent condition), did not defeat Kizara and fell into a coma. Couldn't damage gorosei. ZERO WINS FOR THE ARCH. And then it turned out that Kizaru received the main damage not from g5, but from mental trauma. It's a shame bro. Goofy's Ap is very weak.
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