What Marines know about the Ancient Weapons?


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It's implied to be Lily having a change of heart and going from Evil to good side.

Not lily being under the impression of the 20 kings being just and good.

You really think oda is gonna make Joyboy, the great ancestor of the current condom boy, anything but unambiguously good?
Couldn't be the case since the people of Alabasta and her younger brother chose to inherit her will and pass it down to their descendants

We've seen how Mjosgard was treated when he tried to influence the CD's. Why wouldn't her Kingdom rebel since they previously believed in what the 20 Nations fought for?

Not to mention the 20 Nations (19) still gave her the offer to join them in Mariejois and didn't retaliate later on

There's very little that points to the 20 Nations being objectively evil at the time

The only thing that could possibly point to them being irredeemably evil is the world sinking but we still don't know how that came about

Vegapunk only mentioned that it took place during the Void Century/War not after they had already won



If we're to assume that an Ancient Weapon caused it then it's impossible to determine which side was truly responsible

The only Ancient Weapon we know of that had an official side was Poseidon since she was friends with Joyboy
 
What you said doesnt make sense

How oda will retcon something that he didnt introduced?
He introduced Gold Roger as Gold Roger but changed his name to Go D Roger,

Per google this is the definition of retcon

"in a film, television series, or other fictional work) a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events, typically used to facilitate a dramatic plot shift or account for an inconsistency."
 
Bad pacing =/= slow pacing, the pacing in this arc isn’t slow buts it unbalanced and atrocious.


Half of this was predictable.



Kuma was just misery fetishization, Bonney is pedophile bait, Vegapunk is your average fictional genius that acts like a retard, Saturn has no characterization besides “muh insect,” no one gives a shit about Sentomaru and Stussy, Kizaru’s characterization will be average at best if this is it, etc.


And it’s crazy that despite that it’s till underwhelming. Again you’re just listing stuff without execution, instead of saying “5 MYTHICAL DEMONS WOOOOO” why not mention that half the Gorosei look like children’s Disney animals?
It's been 25 years, and tens of thousands of theories have been made on One Piece.

Show me the countless people who predicted all this.
 
I don’t know about that but it’s clear Alabasta was one of his first plans seeing how it’s the most in depth Oda ever created an island
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i was wrong just checked ,it was an rumor that occurred after Oda said he intended to end the story after 5 years at the start .
Which would have been Alabasta back then ,that how this came up .
Still Alabasta is important
 
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