Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1119 Spoilers Discussion

Hakai vs (Nika×Cyborg)


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gomu gomu no ballon is immune to physical damage, even Sengoku in marineford couldn't do anything against the gear 3 ballon, imagine Nika ballon.
According to information, not even Kaido could produce a physical attack sufficient to damage him, he was barely managing to harm conventional base-Nika

The fact that Luffy feels pain here is proof that IJ hell memories is the greatest physical attack ever given in this story
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Who cares about Franky and Robin having it or not?
They managed to defeat characters worth hundreds of millions without it just fine.
Robin's managed to pick up some fishman karate from koala, and franky has all his cyborg gadgets.

Seriously. Dumbing down everything to Haki is moronic and I really don't understand why we can't appreciate when other characters actually have unique stuff to them.
It's not like Robin and Franky are gonna defeat any big baddie anyway. :kayneshrug:
But this is what Oda is doing right now, dumbing down everything to haki by giving it to Bonney because you gotta have it as a certain level (you yourself justify it by her being part of the worst gen) when there's no good in-universe explanation on how she learned it
 


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At the very least he hits harder than the attacks above. Possibly not when Big Mom is able to wind up with her full body weight, but even that I'm skeptical.
You can't compare PH Law's haki defense to Wano law's. Case in point base luffy pre adv coc got momentarily K.O.ed by ragnarok. Post adv coc he tanked ragnarok to his head. Current law's haki is stronger than PH law's.
 


G3 ballon Luffy was already immune to physical attacks, even though Sengoku pressed him against the platform.

The fact that Sanji managed to damage Nika Gear5 ballon and sent Mars to the other side of the island proves that IJ HM is the strongest physical attack ever used in this work
This is true, Sengoku scales to Roger so this is a PK level punch getting negated by preskip Luffy. Ifrit Sanji did more damage to an infinitely stronger Luffy…
 

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But this is what Oda is doing right now, dumbing down everything to haki by giving it to Bonney because you gotta have it as a certain level (you yourself justify it by her being part of the worst gen) when there's no good in-universe explanation on how she learned it
???????????????
Bonney isn't some random ass character.
She was a supernova.
Why is it so hard to believe she can use freaking CoA?
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