Did Enma have Oden's haki in it?


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WB, BM, Kaido also split the sky and they dont have the hat.

Xebec, Yonko, Rayleigh are important names in pirate history as well and they dont have the hat.

Its not the same hat, and treasure doesnt mean its a device that powers people up.

The burden of proof is still on your, prove your crackhead theory.
Where did I claim sky splitting is restricted only to straw hat users ???

None of those you listed are Oda Golden boys. Xebec is just Roger rival that got negged and forgotten , Yonkos are just failed pirates that tried but never claimed One Piece . Rayleigh is Rogers right hand man anyway.

I was first one that asked you to actually prove me wrong . After you do that I will return the favor.
 
Where did I claim sky splitting is restricted only to straw hat users ???

None of those you listed are Oda Golden boys. Xebec is just Roger rival that got negged and forgotten , Yonkos are just failed pirates that tried but never claimed One Piece . Rayleigh is Rogers right hand man anyway.

I was first one that asked you to actually prove me wrong . After you do that I will return the favor.
You used it to justify the hat giving them power, I’ve shown you that people can do it who don’t have the hat therefore the assumption that its the hat that allows it is a huge reach.

You said ‘important names in history’s and now youre moving the goal post to ‘’Golden Boys’‘ lol.

Doesnt matter who asked first, your shitty theory is on you to prove not on us to accept lol.
 
Power of straw hat.

Straw hat is a mysterious artifact within one piece universe that grants its wielders huge relevancy to the one piece story . Each user of straw hat is also known as Oda golden boy

It is also a powerful weapon that grants Godlike coc haki to all its wielders. Its tradition once someone masters Haki usage straw hat grants to give it to his favorite pupil , just like Roger did it with Shanks and years later Shanks did it to Luffy.

Item description also lists all so far known users which are Joyboy , Roger , Shanks and Luffy.
:shocking::shocking::shocking::shocking:I like your theory.:hihihi:
 
Edit : sorry didnt want to quote you
You used it to justify the hat giving them power, I’ve shown you that people can do it who don’t have the hat therefore the assumption that its the hat that allows it is a huge reach.

You said ‘important names in history’s and now youre moving the goal post to ‘’Golden Boys’‘ lol.

Doesnt matter who asked first, your shitty theory is on you to prove not on us to accept lol.
And again I never said this is restricted to Straw hat users , learn to read next time.

Not true I mentioned Golden Boys in very first post and in fact people you listed are not bigger names or more relevant names than first pirate in history , Pirate King and main character.

It matters to me, because instead of answering you are avoiding my question. Have the courtesy to do so and I will return the favor for your request.
 
Edit : sorry didnt want to quote you

And again I never said this is restricted to Straw hat users , learn to read next time.

Not true I mentioned Golden Boys in very first post and in fact people you listed are not bigger names or more relevant names than first pirate in history , Pirate King and main character.

It matters to me, because instead of answering you are avoiding my question. Have the courtesy to do so and I will return the favor for your request.
I am not lol, you need to prove your theory I dont have to do anything.

JB died 800 years ago, Roger had the hat when he was a noob. We know there is a hat in MJ and it’s Joyboys, Rogers hat isnt Joyboys.
 
I am not lol, you need to prove your theory I dont have to do anything.

JB died 800 years ago, Roger had the hat when he was a noob. We know there is a hat in MJ and it’s Joyboys, Rogers hat isnt Joyboys.
Neither do I , my goal was never to prove anything I didnt even create thread about it.

I asked you to if you want ,to prove me wrong and you didnt . I respect that I really do but I dont really feel obliged to provide proof to you, after you rejected to do the same.

Again as I said I am willing to provide proof but only after you do what I asked first. If you dont want thats fine by me but dont expect me to waste my time on you when you firstly refused my request.
 
Neither do I , my goal was never to prove anything I didnt even create thread about it.

I asked you to if you want ,to prove me wrong and you didnt . I respect that I really do but I dont really feel obliged to provide proof to you, after you rejected to do the same.

Again as I said I am willing to provide proof but only after you do what I asked first. If you dont want thats fine by me but dont expect me to waste my time on you when you firstly refused my request.
The thing is when you come up with an unproven theory its not on your detractors to prove you wrong.
 
The thing is when you come up with an unproven theory its not on your detractors to prove you wrong.
I dont remember creating thread where I would be explaining , proving , countering anything I just briefly mentioned it in our discussion. Thing is when I asked, you avoided my request, I am just doing the same after you did it first thats all.
 
I dont remember creating thread where I would be explaining , proving , countering anything I just briefly mentioned it in our discussion. Thing is when I asked, you avoided my request, I am just doing the same after you did it first thats all.
You dont need to do that to talk about a theory.

What did I do?
 
I don't think Goofy's hat has that much haki reserves.

After all, Roger only wore that hat in his early years from what we know. And Shanks only wore it until Romance Dawn. That shanks was 1bil bounty pirate. So a commander level shanks. It's pretty likely that shanks didn't have his current insane haki level at that time. So both Roger and Shanks couldn't contribute much to the haki reserves of the hat.

So in conclusion, goofy's hat is not the source of his haki.


It is undoubtedly his fruit. The nika nika fruit is said to have been used directly by Joyboy. And We just saw Joyboy putting some of his haki inside Emeth and it blasting away Team Gorosei at the speed of light. So it's likely that the fruit contains a ton of residual haki from joyboy. After all, he must have had that fruit for his whole life.

Not to mention the reactions of Zunesha and Emeth specifically to Goofy's nika form. They don't react at all when goofy is not using g5. Even when he uses acoc, they don't care. But the moment he uses g5, their eyes light up and they immediately recognize it as Joyboy's haki and heart beat.

So, Nika fruit is 100% without a doubt a haki bag. A gigantic haki bag filled up with Joyboy's haki from years of use.

We can even see this in effect in wano. When goofy uses g4 too much, he runs out of his own haki and has to rest to regain it. But against kaido, even after fighting kaido multiple times and running out of haki in g5, all he had to do was beat his heart and he got his haki back. The heart, the very same heart who's beat was recognized by Zunesha and Emeth as that of Joyboy's own heartbeat.

So whenever goofy uses heart beat to regain strength, he's pumping Joyboy's haki reserves into himself.






And on that note, since we're talking about hats and haki, i believe we now know what the national treasure of Marie Joa is.

It is that large strawhat in the frozen room as a lot of us have suspected before. It is logical that that hat is the hat of the original Joyboy. The very same that put haki reserves into Emeth and the nika fruit.

So it makes complete sense that his hat would also have massive amounts of haki in it.

I believe that the Gorosei, and Imu himself, is using that Hat and it's massive haki storage reserves as a way to empower themselves. We saw imu visiting that hat. I suspect he was there to refill his haki with the haki from the hat. And i think it's logical to assume the gorosei also do it too.

If any of you have played the acclaimed and all time classic Bethesda game Morrowind, you will know what i am talking about.

In the story of the game, There existed a heart. The Heart of Lorkhan. An Aedra, a deity from before the Elder Scrolls universe known as Nirn was created.

I won't go into details about how Lorkhan's heart was plucked out and shot away on an arrow by Auriel and how all that came to be. Cause that would take too much time.

Anyway, this heart, Lorkhan's heart, the heart of a very powerful deity, landed on what would come to be known as the Red Mountain of Morrowind.

And some people discovered it. The Tribunal. Almalexia, Sotha Sil and Vivec


They sought power for themselves and treated the heart as a means to gain that power.

They would come and bask in the glows that the heart of the deity gave away, and it would rejuvenate them and grant them powers on par with the gods of the elder scrolls universe.

But it wouldn't last too long. So they had to always come back to the heart for refills to their power.


Ultimately, their quest for power and greed destroyed them all. Or completely changed them in Vivec's case. He is believed to have achieved Chim. That's all a complete different matter. So is the events of the game where Dagoth Ur also covets the powers of the heart for himself and steals it.

Which actually could also happen in one piece with Black Beard and his plans now that i'm thinking of it. And it also could very well have been the plans of Xebec. To gain posession of the hat and unlimited power.

Anyway, the main point is, to show how similar the Story of Joyboy and one piece is to elder scrolls 3: Morrowind


So, this hat is a source of power. The source of Imu and his Gorosei's power in fact. It could very well be the secret to their immortality as well. They do pilgrimages to this hat every time their powers start waning. And it keeps them young for as long as they renew the ritual of visiting the hat.


And it also connects well to the Dream of Doflamingo and his ultimate plans with the ope ope no mi.

I believe he was planning on having the ope ope no mi user transfer the FULL haki resided in the hat ALL to himself. And it would only be possible with the personality switching ability of the ope ope no mi. With some modifications and mastery over that fruit, it's possible to transfer Haki from one person to another, or indeed, from an object to a person.


So, the most important thing in one piece is haki. We saw that in egghead. Vegapunk did not know what the unlimited power source of the ancient kingdom was. He thought it was an undying flame. So he tried to replicate it and created the Mother Flame.

But now we know what powered the ancient Robot and why it reacted to goofy in g5 form. Indeed, it was haki.

Haki is the unlimited power. Will power is unlimited and infinite. It goes well with the story's themes. With enough will power, people can achieve anything. Ties into the Will of D as well and gives it new meaning. I haven't thought about that muh yet. But i am sure whatever the meaning of D ends up becooming, it will ultimately tie back to Will power, or Haki.





footnote:
The ancient weapons might all be operated by haki. Shirahoshi's controll of the Seakings is very akin to a conqueror ordering their subjects around. So Pluton and Uranus would also be related in some way to haki. Time will tell.
 
I don't think Goofy's hat has that much haki reserves.

After all, Roger only wore that hat in his early years from what we know. And Shanks only wore it until Romance Dawn. That shanks was 1bil bounty pirate. So a commander level shanks. It's pretty likely that shanks didn't have his current insane haki level at that time. So both Roger and Shanks couldn't contribute much to the haki reserves of the hat.

So in conclusion, goofy's hat is not the source of his haki.


It is undoubtedly his fruit. The nika nika fruit is said to have been used directly by Joyboy. And We just saw Joyboy putting some of his haki inside Emeth and it blasting away Team Gorosei at the speed of light. So it's likely that the fruit contains a ton of residual haki from joyboy. After all, he must have had that fruit for his whole life.

Not to mention the reactions of Zunesha and Emeth specifically to Goofy's nika form. They don't react at all when goofy is not using g5. Even when he uses acoc, they don't care. But the moment he uses g5, their eyes light up and they immediately recognize it as Joyboy's haki and heart beat.

So, Nika fruit is 100% without a doubt a haki bag. A gigantic haki bag filled up with Joyboy's haki from years of use.

We can even see this in effect in wano. When goofy uses g4 too much, he runs out of his own haki and has to rest to regain it. But against kaido, even after fighting kaido multiple times and running out of haki in g5, all he had to do was beat his heart and he got his haki back. The heart, the very same heart who's beat was recognized by Zunesha and Emeth as that of Joyboy's own heartbeat.

So whenever goofy uses heart beat to regain strength, he's pumping Joyboy's haki reserves into himself.






And on that note, since we're talking about hats and haki, i believe we now know what the national treasure of Marie Joa is.

It is that large strawhat in the frozen room as a lot of us have suspected before. It is logical that that hat is the hat of the original Joyboy. The very same that put haki reserves into Emeth and the nika fruit.

So it makes complete sense that his hat would also have massive amounts of haki in it.

I believe that the Gorosei, and Imu himself, is using that Hat and it's massive haki storage reserves as a way to empower themselves. We saw imu visiting that hat. I suspect he was there to refill his haki with the haki from the hat. And i think it's logical to assume the gorosei also do it too.

If any of you have played the acclaimed and all time classic Bethesda game Morrowind, you will know what i am talking about.

In the story of the game, There existed a heart. The Heart of Lorkhan. An Aedra, a deity from before the Elder Scrolls universe known as Nirn was created.

I won't go into details about how Lorkhan's heart was plucked out and shot away on an arrow by Auriel and how all that came to be. Cause that would take too much time.

Anyway, this heart, Lorkhan's heart, the heart of a very powerful deity, landed on what would come to be known as the Red Mountain of Morrowind.

And some people discovered it. The Tribunal. Almalexia, Sotha Sil and Vivec


They sought power for themselves and treated the heart as a means to gain that power.

They would come and bask in the glows that the heart of the deity gave away, and it would rejuvenate them and grant them powers on par with the gods of the elder scrolls universe.

But it wouldn't last too long. So they had to always come back to the heart for refills to their power.


Ultimately, their quest for power and greed destroyed them all. Or completely changed them in Vivec's case. He is believed to have achieved Chim. That's all a complete different matter. So is the events of the game where Dagoth Ur also covets the powers of the heart for himself and steals it.

Which actually could also happen in one piece with Black Beard and his plans now that i'm thinking of it. And it also could very well have been the plans of Xebec. To gain posession of the hat and unlimited power.

Anyway, the main point is, to show how similar the Story of Joyboy and one piece is to elder scrolls 3: Morrowind


So, this hat is a source of power. The source of Imu and his Gorosei's power in fact. It could very well be the secret to their immortality as well. They do pilgrimages to this hat every time their powers start waning. And it keeps them young for as long as they renew the ritual of visiting the hat.


And it also connects well to the Dream of Doflamingo and his ultimate plans with the ope ope no mi.

I believe he was planning on having the ope ope no mi user transfer the FULL haki resided in the hat ALL to himself. And it would only be possible with the personality switching ability of the ope ope no mi. With some modifications and mastery over that fruit, it's possible to transfer Haki from one person to another, or indeed, from an object to a person.


So, the most important thing in one piece is haki. We saw that in egghead. Vegapunk did not know what the unlimited power source of the ancient kingdom was. He thought it was an undying flame. So he tried to replicate it and created the Mother Flame.

But now we know what powered the ancient Robot and why it reacted to goofy in g5 form. Indeed, it was haki.

Haki is the unlimited power. Will power is unlimited and infinite. It goes well with the story's themes. With enough will power, people can achieve anything. Ties into the Will of D as well and gives it new meaning. I haven't thought about that muh yet. But i am sure whatever the meaning of D ends up becooming, it will ultimately tie back to Will power, or Haki.





footnote:
The ancient weapons might all be operated by haki. Shirahoshi's controll of the Seakings is very akin to a conqueror ordering their subjects around. So Pluton and Uranus would also be related in some way to haki. Time will tell.
Jesus christ man just make a thread at this point
 
I don't think Goofy's hat has that much haki reserves.

After all, Roger only wore that hat in his early years from what we know. And Shanks only wore it until Romance Dawn. That shanks was 1bil bounty pirate. So a commander level shanks. It's pretty likely that shanks didn't have his current insane haki level at that time. So both Roger and Shanks couldn't contribute much to the haki reserves of the hat.

So in conclusion, goofy's hat is not the source of his haki.


It is undoubtedly his fruit. The nika nika fruit is said to have been used directly by Joyboy. And We just saw Joyboy putting some of his haki inside Emeth and it blasting away Team Gorosei at the speed of light. So it's likely that the fruit contains a ton of residual haki from joyboy. After all, he must have had that fruit for his whole life.

Not to mention the reactions of Zunesha and Emeth specifically to Goofy's nika form. They don't react at all when goofy is not using g5. Even when he uses acoc, they don't care. But the moment he uses g5, their eyes light up and they immediately recognize it as Joyboy's haki and heart beat.

So, Nika fruit is 100% without a doubt a haki bag. A gigantic haki bag filled up with Joyboy's haki from years of use.

We can even see this in effect in wano. When goofy uses g4 too much, he runs out of his own haki and has to rest to regain it. But against kaido, even after fighting kaido multiple times and running out of haki in g5, all he had to do was beat his heart and he got his haki back. The heart, the very same heart who's beat was recognized by Zunesha and Emeth as that of Joyboy's own heartbeat.

So whenever goofy uses heart beat to regain strength, he's pumping Joyboy's haki reserves into himself.






And on that note, since we're talking about hats and haki, i believe we now know what the national treasure of Marie Joa is.

It is that large strawhat in the frozen room as a lot of us have suspected before. It is logical that that hat is the hat of the original Joyboy. The very same that put haki reserves into Emeth and the nika fruit.

So it makes complete sense that his hat would also have massive amounts of haki in it.

I believe that the Gorosei, and Imu himself, is using that Hat and it's massive haki storage reserves as a way to empower themselves. We saw imu visiting that hat. I suspect he was there to refill his haki with the haki from the hat. And i think it's logical to assume the gorosei also do it too.

If any of you have played the acclaimed and all time classic Bethesda game Morrowind, you will know what i am talking about.

In the story of the game, There existed a heart. The Heart of Lorkhan. An Aedra, a deity from before the Elder Scrolls universe known as Nirn was created.

I won't go into details about how Lorkhan's heart was plucked out and shot away on an arrow by Auriel and how all that came to be. Cause that would take too much time.

Anyway, this heart, Lorkhan's heart, the heart of a very powerful deity, landed on what would come to be known as the Red Mountain of Morrowind.

And some people discovered it. The Tribunal. Almalexia, Sotha Sil and Vivec


They sought power for themselves and treated the heart as a means to gain that power.

They would come and bask in the glows that the heart of the deity gave away, and it would rejuvenate them and grant them powers on par with the gods of the elder scrolls universe.

But it wouldn't last too long. So they had to always come back to the heart for refills to their power.


Ultimately, their quest for power and greed destroyed them all. Or completely changed them in Vivec's case. He is believed to have achieved Chim. That's all a complete different matter. So is the events of the game where Dagoth Ur also covets the powers of the heart for himself and steals it.

Which actually could also happen in one piece with Black Beard and his plans now that i'm thinking of it. And it also could very well have been the plans of Xebec. To gain posession of the hat and unlimited power.

Anyway, the main point is, to show how similar the Story of Joyboy and one piece is to elder scrolls 3: Morrowind


So, this hat is a source of power. The source of Imu and his Gorosei's power in fact. It could very well be the secret to their immortality as well. They do pilgrimages to this hat every time their powers start waning. And it keeps them young for as long as they renew the ritual of visiting the hat.


And it also connects well to the Dream of Doflamingo and his ultimate plans with the ope ope no mi.

I believe he was planning on having the ope ope no mi user transfer the FULL haki resided in the hat ALL to himself. And it would only be possible with the personality switching ability of the ope ope no mi. With some modifications and mastery over that fruit, it's possible to transfer Haki from one person to another, or indeed, from an object to a person.


So, the most important thing in one piece is haki. We saw that in egghead. Vegapunk did not know what the unlimited power source of the ancient kingdom was. He thought it was an undying flame. So he tried to replicate it and created the Mother Flame.

But now we know what powered the ancient Robot and why it reacted to goofy in g5 form. Indeed, it was haki.

Haki is the unlimited power. Will power is unlimited and infinite. It goes well with the story's themes. With enough will power, people can achieve anything. Ties into the Will of D as well and gives it new meaning. I haven't thought about that muh yet. But i am sure whatever the meaning of D ends up becooming, it will ultimately tie back to Will power, or Haki.





footnote:
The ancient weapons might all be operated by haki. Shirahoshi's controll of the Seakings is very akin to a conqueror ordering their subjects around. So Pluton and Uranus would also be related in some way to haki. Time will tell.
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