Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1124 Spoilers Discussion

THAT MAN will be/ Cover Page Kidnapper


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Because its the cream of the crop.
A child can use a 21 grade
All the way to a prime oden can use a 21 grade

Saijos are only used by top tier haki users
Yeah this ain't a point to your argument lmao

A child using a great grade means exactly the opposite. It means there's no magical requirements for all swords. Only cursed swords like the Kitetsu series and magical swords like Enma
 
Saijos are only used by top tier haki users
We had 3 out of 12 examples (now 4 with the Elder). Which means there are possibly another 8 and given they were passed on throughout history, there were probably many more. You need to have top tier Haki, that might be true, but you don't need to be peak CoC.

And sure, you could argue that Fujitora's Haki > C3s due to him focusing on a sword and a paramecia, but the C3 have busted Logia fruits. I assume that the Gravity power also serves as a substitute for ACoC.
 

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We had 3 out of 12 examples (now 4 with the Elder). Which means there are possibly another 8 and given they were passed on throughout history, there were probably many more. You need to have top tier Haki, that might be true, but you don't need to be peak CoC.

And sure, you could argue that Fujitora's Haki > C3s due to him focusing on a sword and a paramecia, but the C3 have busted Logia fruits. I assume that the Gravity power also serves as a substitute for ACoC.
Fuji got the fruit recently

He will be an acoc swordsman with gravity

Whilst the others will be awakened
 
What are you marine matchups now that Kizaru survived this arc @Paperchampion23
Hmm, if we get a generally exclusive arc with Akainu? I still think Fuji and Ryo are Zoro and Sanji fights, their behavior is too much like King and Queen for me to ignore personally. Kizaru is tough, either he fights Luffy again first, or maybe another ally (i.e. Sabo) ends up battling him at a key point, especially if Dragon and Akainu have history being marines and the same age.

Otherwise, if they Marines are just fighting everyone (Yonko), I see similar groupings, just bigger mess of fights (Zoro/Fuju/Shiryu/Mihawk and Sanji/Ryo/Laffite/Beckman etc). Personally cant say about any Zodiac VA until Oda acknowledges them more beyond then 3 we know.

In that case though Sabo vs Kizaru still "feels" like something Oda would do unless he makes Jinbe or miraculously Kuma still some top tier member of the crew.
 
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Fujitora surely has Acoc but any of the C3 probably beats him. Maybe he wins against current Kuzan if he got weaker.
How can he defeat a man who is almost equal to Akainu?
And if Akainu has advcoc, Aokiji has literally fought against him for 10 days
What advantage does Fuji have?
 
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