Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1140 Spoilers Discussion

How strong was Prime Gaban ?


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He is, the WG just want to maintain the status quo, they don’t want things to change or war.

Primebeard just wants to live with his family, he doesn’t want war

Gabans just a guy, why would he wage war on an entire country he has no connection to anymore?

People read these and instantly force power scaling but it’s character motivations more than anything.
Rare W for yasheen lol


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Characters have their own motivations to act unlike us who thinks in black and white and in terms of power levels.


From GB to WB to Ray and Gaban - for them Kaido was a deterrent..this doesn't mean Kaido was strongest but no one wants to mess with another yonkou when it's not even their goal or any requirement to do so.



Infact, Gaban or Ray or WB actions do make sense - they left it on Oden. They believed he can manage with all those samurais. They don't need to check on him as well - I mean it's another yonkou territory after all.

What's off about this is Oden himself. Who despite seeing odds against him still choose to not take any help.
 
Exactly.

Luffy is frustrated, not Luffy is bloodlusted tryna actually kill this old man.

He simply wanted to fight at his freest, it's not rocket science buddy.
Bloodlusted is agenda term you dofus
Also luffy never kills anyone
Stop trying gaslighting people because you keep misinterpreting the manga, Luffy was frustrated because he didnt take gaban seriosly and couldnt do anything against him in his current form, not because he was laughing and he finds Gear 5 funny like againt the snake
 
I feel like you guys don't understand Luffy's character at all lool.

The dude just loves fighting in G5 because it's where he feels most free - it's really not that deep.

Y'all are tryna apply battle logic to this like it's Hunter x Hunter or sum lool, Luffy's a goofy guy just goofing around in a manga aimed at teenagers. He used G5 because he felt like it. He could've also used ACoC G2/G4 with FS which easily would've massively boosted his speed but clearly chose not to over just fucking around in G5.
Bro he's getting frustrated that he couldn't land or dodge attacks and he jumps straight to G5.
I understand exactly what this means. U guys just underestimating how strong base Luffy is.
 
Rare W for yasheen lol


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Characters have their own motivations to act unlike us who thinks in black and white and in terms of power levels.


From GB to WB to Ray and Gaban - for them Kaido was a deterrent..this doesn't mean Kaido was strongest but no one wants to mess with another yonkou when it's not even their goal or any requirement to do so.



Infact, Gaban or Ray or WB actions do make sense - they left it on Oden. They believed he can manage with all those samurais. They don't need to check on him as well - I mean it's another yonkou territory after all.

What's off about this is Oden himself. Who despite seeing odds against him still choose to not take any help.
People think these dudes go out there picking fights for no reason

what’s there to gain by raging war with Kaido if civilians will die? The whole point of the raid was exactly to avoid that
 

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Unironically my perception on the level of the Admirals has completely shattered. These guys are just unbelievable, high top tiers with busted Devil fruits. There is no way to interpret this chapter other than the Admirals just being pirate king level fighters with top tier ass Devil fruits. Oda would never draw an all-out Admiral getting one sidedly bodied by an old legend.

Wizaru casually made Rayleigh huff and puff, Kuzan turned his fruit off and captured Garp, Akainu gave Whitebeard a heart attack. Meanwhile Goofy who whooped Kaido’s fraudulent ass is getting one sidedly humiliated by a character who is optimistically as strong as Rayleigh but realistically is just slightly beneath Rayleigh and surely below Garp.

Yonko fans should just start dropping, this series was never for you clowns.
 
Rare W for yasheen lol


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Characters have their own motivations to act unlike us who thinks in black and white and in terms of power levels.


From GB to WB to Ray and Gaban - for them Kaido was a deterrent..this doesn't mean Kaido was strongest but no one wants to mess with another yonkou when it's not even their goal or any requirement to do so.



Infact, Gaban or Ray or WB actions do make sense - they left it on Oden. They believed he can manage with all those samurais. They don't need to check on him as well - I mean it's another yonkou territory after all.

What's off about this is Oden himself. Who despite seeing odds against him still choose to not take any help.
You say rare but I’ve been calling Elbaf to be the war against the WG for the longest time looks like it’s going that way too especially with Gaban being the Man Marked by Flames

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Unironically my perception on the level of the Admirals has completely shattered. These guys are just unbelievable, high top tiers with busted Devil fruits. There is no way to interpret this chapter other than the Admirals just being pirate king level fighters with top tier ass Devil fruits. Oda would never draw an all-out Admiral getting one sidedly bodied by an old legend.

Wizaru casually made Rayleigh huff and puff, Kuzan turned his fruit off and captured Garp. Meanwhile Goofy who whooped Kaido’s fraudulent ass is getting one sidedly humiliated by a character who is optimistically as strong as Rayleigh but realistically is just slightly beneath Rayleigh and surely below Garp.

Yonko fans should just start dropping, this series was never for you clowns.
Old garp was domination Kuzan. If admirals don't have awakening. They are legit fucked.
 
Bro he's getting frustrated that he couldn't land or dodge attacks and he jumps straight to G5.
I understand exactly what this means. U guys just underestimating how strong base Luffy is.
Base luffy is trash . ( even more so when oda don't have him using advance haki )
Base luffy has not done anything worth while in years .
He get two hit on kaido after learn ACoC and then get send into sea to died .
 
Unironically my perception on the level of the Admirals has completely shattered. These guys are just unbelievable, high top tiers with busted Devil fruits. There is no way to interpret this chapter other than the Admirals just being pirate king level fighters with top tier ass Devil fruits. Oda would never draw an all-out Admiral getting one sidedly bodied by an old legend.

Wizaru casually made Rayleigh huff and puff, Kuzan turned his fruit off and captured Garp. Meanwhile Goofy who whooped Kaido’s fraudulent ass is getting one sidedly humiliated by a character who is optimistically as strong as Rayleigh but realistically is just slightly beneath Rayleigh and surely below Garp.

Yonko fans should just start dropping, this series was never for you clowns.
If part of Akainu's awakening is that he can even control external magma, that means the Gura Gura's got nothing on a guy controlling the very veins of the planet.
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