Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1143 Spoilers Discussion

[ConquistadoR]

Except, he literally said he will leave after getting "Strawhat Luffy". His intention wasn't to "moniter the war" lol. He had zero interest in Wano beyond that.

Akainu: "You are not to do anything unnecessary!"
Ryokugyu, to fodder Marines: "Don't tell Sakazuki what I'm upto."

He was never sent to capture Luffy, but rather something he wanted to do off his own volition to get a good name in Akainu's books.

Like i said here ->

Ryokugyu just additionally went ahead, negged the two YCs and tried to bring Luffy's head back to Akainu to surprise him.

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Gaban is not currently planning a trip to Wano, nor has he actually gone to Wano, even though Kaido is dead. Kaido was not keeping him from going to Wano, he simply is retired and wants to visit the country again sometime. Unless Gaban caused trouble, Kaido would not try to kill him, the SH were undercover in Wano for a good amount of time.

He doesn't have to do all of that.

His words tell you all you need to know, feeling happy that now he could go back to Wano again after talking about how Luffy took care of Kaido.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I think when it comes to King Kuri just spam this, it's enough. The moment. The ost. Come back when your fav gets such moment.

I almost get the feeling this guy likes Katakuri or something. Though that's just a hunch.

 

[Levi]

I haven’t seen ppl talking about the spoilers since page 50ish The lowly knights effect

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Going after one Yonko means going after ALL of them

If word got out that the WG started targetting Yonkos for their Red Pones you can bet your ass the remaining three Yonko would form an alliance, maybe even go to the one being invaded and help them out

WB, Kaido, and BM used to be former mates. Shanks moves against the WG. It’d be 4 Yonkos and their crews vs Admirals, CP0, Warlords (Holy Knights and Gorosei don’t count due to their jurisdiction). Four Yonkos teamed up would be the singlehanded greatest combat force bigger than WG, who also had 4-5 top tiers at best

(Beckmann might be a top tier, Kaido can arguably handle two Admirals, Shanks can feasibly mid-diff an Admiral)

They could definitely handle 3 Yonko though, the World Government has 4 Admirals, Sengoku, Garp, Kong, Garling, Shamrock and the Gorosei as top tier fighters.

Then you have Lucci, probably the other Holy Knights, X Drake, Koby, the Seraphim/Shichibukai to handle Commander level threats.

Take out Linlin first—who has the best intel network out of any of them—and you're making the next big fight that much easier. The only it factor comes from Blackbeard but the firepower on the WG side is insane.

 

[SakazOuki]

Shiryu was pretty adamant the World Gov. would love to get their hands on a Red Poneglyph to keep it out of everyone else's hands. They have the manpower (x100) to do that to any Yonko and still don't. Even for realpolitik reasons, it's not believable

The last one could be in their hands
But yeah I get what you mean, Oda with his adhd didn’t adequately lay out the WG’s full thought process, but the important details and general picture should be easy to grasp. Maybe more info will be revealed in the future

 

[soupongo]

Akainu: "You are not to do anything unnecessary!"
Ryokugyu, to fodder Marines: "Don't tell Sakazuki what I'm upto."

He was never sent to capture Luffy, but rather something he wanted to do off his own volition to get a good name in Akainu's books.

Like i said here ->

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He doesn't have to do all of that.

His words tell you all you need to know, feeling happy that now he could go back to Wano again after talking about how Luffy took care of Kaido.

He wasn't interested in whatever orders he got. When did he try monitoring the situation or anything like that? His entire goal in going to Wano was capturing Luffy.
No, Gaban never said he was happy "he could go back to Wano again". He just said he wanted to visit at some point. Kaido has been dead for like 2 weeks and he could have visited already if he was just marking his calendar for Kaidos death

 

[SakazOuki]

@SakazOuki

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I haven’t seen ppl talking about the spoilers since page 50ish The lowly knights effect

Nice pfp

The only it factor comes from Blackbeard

Unless he can do some crazy awakened Gura and Yami shenanigans, I honestly don't see even his crew pushing that team past a low diff at the very most.
And that's crazy since his crew is currently the second or first strongest Yonko crew so far.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

They could definitely handle 3 Yonko though, the World Government has 4 Admirals, Sengoku, Garp, Kong, Garling, Shamrock and the Gorosei as top tier fighters.

Then you have Lucci, probably the other Holy Knights, X Drake, Koby, the Seraphim/Shichibukai to handle Commander level threats.

Take out Linlin first—who has the best intel network out of any of them—and you're making the next big fight that much easier. The only it factor comes from Blackbeard but the firepower on the WG side is insane.

The Gorosei aren't fighters. They only came because Saturn was Vegapunk's boss. then he saw his boss' enemy.

And Kong has to be like 90. He ain't pushing anything around but pencils.

 

[soupongo]

Going after one Yonko means going after ALL of them

If word got out that the WG started targetting Yonkos for their Red Pones you can bet your ass the remaining three Yonko would form an alliance, maybe even go to the one being invaded and help them out

WB, Kaido, and BM used to be former mates. Shanks moves against the WG. It’d be 4 Yonkos and their crews vs Admirals, CP0, Warlords (Holy Knights and Gorosei don’t count due to their jurisdiction). Four Yonkos teamed up would be the singlehanded greatest combat force bigger than WG, who also had 4-5 top tiers at best

(Beckmann might be a top tier, Kaido can arguably handle two Admirals, Shanks can feasibly mid-diff an Admiral)

They have nukes tho...

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

And Kong has to be like 90. He ain't pushing anything around but pencils.

Oda loves strong old men. After Hachinosu, I wouldn't be surprised if Kong isn't the strongest non-immortal in the WG

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Oda loves strong old men. After Hachinosu, I wouldn't be surprised if Kong isn't the strongest non-immortal in the WG

He showed up, in story, in one chapter before the time skip, then in a flashback, like 15 years later, in real life. And offscreen in Shiki's chapter.

He's barely a character.

 

[ConquistadoR]

They could definitely handle 3 Yonko though, the World Government has 4 Admirals, Sengoku, Garp, Kong, Garling, Shamrock and the Gorosei as top tier fighters.

Then you have Lucci, probably the other Holy Knights, X Drake, Koby, the Seraphim/Shichibukai to handle Commander level threats.

Take out Linlin first—who has the best intel network out of any of them—and you're making the next big fight that much easier. The only it factor comes from Blackbeard but the firepower on the WG side is insane.

It's a delicate balance tbh.

The World Govt have to keep the 4 Yonko, the Revolutionaries at bay while also needing manpower to maintain law & order and protecting the citizens in other WG affiliated nations from common criminals.

It's not as simple as "top tier power balance" that you think of.
The moment 2 Admirals show up with a fleet to Wano or WCI f.ex., what's stopping the other Emperors or the Revolutionaries from moving forward with their plans?

It takes multiple days to move sufficient manpower from one island to another & news spread fast, like Egghead showed when New Giant Pirates came to support the SHs against the Marine invasion.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

The Gorosei aren't fighters. They only came because Saturn was Vegapunk's boss. then he saw his boss' enemy.

And Kong has to be like 90. He ain't pushing anything around but pencils.

They definitely are fighters. I mean hell, the weakest of them in Saturn, was able to hold his own on God Valley.

 

[soupongo]

The WG is planning to flood the entire world, I guess. So is the assumption the Yonko will just die as part of that?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

The moment 2 Admirals show up with a fleet to Wano or WCI f.ex., what's stopping the other Emperors or the Revolutionaries from moving forward with their plans?

Tbh send 2 admirals, all of CP-0 and the Seraphim out to WCI and they get the job done well enough. Maybe not utter annhilation but pretty damn close.

That leaves The Holy Knights for the Revos, who they canonically were wary of.

2 Admirals, Garp, Sengoku to defend from the other threats.

Oda likes to make a big deal out of fodder in these wars, like he did in Onigashima. But in a world where CoC exists and Oda admitted two admirals can wipe entire battlefields clear, it almost assuredly comes down to the high and top tiers in these scenarios. But even in the game of manpower...

The World Government is overwhelming in that department.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

They definitely are fighters. I mean hell, the weakest of them in Saturn, was able to hold his own on God Valley.

They are the guys who actually handle ruling the WG. They aren't supposed to be fighting, they have people for that sort of thing. The fact that they had to at Egghead was growing desperation their master's reincarnated enemy is getting closer to bringing down their lies.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

The WG is planning to flood the entire world, I guess. So is the assumption the Yonko will just die as part of that?

I don't think they plan on flooding the world, I took it as the world is flooding as a result of the war and the Tenryuubito are doing their best to survive.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

That leaves The Holy Knights for the Revos, who they canonically were wary of.

That's not happening lol.

They are the guys who actually handle ruling the WG. They aren't supposed to be fighting, they have people for that sort of thing. The fact that they had to at Egghead was growing desperation their master's reincarnated enemy is getting closer to bringing down their lies.

The thing is they can still actually fight though. They aren't fighters first and foremost, but they can still fight pretty well.
Otherwise we wouldn't be getting things like Nusjuro clashing equally with Zoro's Rashomon.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

That's not happening lol.

The thing is they can still actually fight though. They aren't fighters first and foremost, but they can still fight pretty well.
Otherwise we wouldn't be getting things like Nusjuro clashing equally with Zoro's Rashomon.

Still, you generally don't want your king/president/whatever sailing around where a ship can sink and they go down with it.