Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1143 Spoilers Discussion

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I didn't even notice that Jack considered even weakened scabbards too much for the Tobiroppo lol. That really just says it all, nobody except maybe WsW should even be in discussion with even Kiku (weakest scabbard).

How does Ver-san compare to other upper vet characters?

- Izo
- Guernica
- Maha
- Kin'emon
- Kawamatsu
- WsW
- Persopero
- Pica
- Snack (??)

Just for context, I consider entry level commanders to be base Dukes/Cracker/Jack/Shutenmaru. Everyone below that is varying degrees of vet level IMO

I also think you're judging Kin'emon's performance in PH too harshly.
Kin'emon there was confused, in unknown lands, mentally disturbed (lost his partners and Momo). Of course he looked like a chump, when we know his persona is of a dumbass.
This is in stark contrast to him facing Kaido, against whom he had hardened his will, fully prepared and was ready to go all out - he lived for this moment, he was at his best against Kaido.
Kinemon that fought Kaido isn't the same one who fought in PH, but there's 2 instances that confirm him below Vergo, Pica and Doffy.
 

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Once again I come back to the usual TAC fuckery.

They will never stop the Ver.go bros. Critical should've never been banned (for his Vergo wank that shit was gold but I agree he should be banned for his other creepy posts)
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Oh to go back to COVID quarantine days when I used to log in everyday to a Critical mindset PHD thesis on why Ver.go is the strongest character in One Piece :gokulaugh:

We will never forget right-leg Chan who agreed to record a video for demonstration purposes :blush:

Also, shout out to Oda for confirming greatness in the latest SBS
 
I think he might lose to the cipher pol guys, not that they have any good feats or anything really, but just based on the idea that they were trusted enough to go to Wano to secure the seastones. Aside from that, I don't really see Ver.d go losing to any of them
I don't think he lose to Maha, but Guernica is fair.

IMO strongest vet is between Guernica, Ver-san, Pica and Izo.
I would've included Perospero too, but him being pushed to his limits by sulong Wanda and Carrot is a bad look (for context, Jack solo'd the entire sulong army including musketeers who are individually stronger than Carrot and Wanda).


Kinemon that fought Kaido isn't the same one who fought in PH, but there's 2 instances that confirm him below Help I am trapped in 2014 with Shuyuka and Critical Mindset., Pica and Doffy.
Yeah. But I think serious Kin'nemon can push Ver-san to extreme diff

Pica is a very matchup dependent. You need high DC or AOE or flight to deal with him. Kin'nemon doesn't look like he has a way to deal with Pica.

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You mad?
 
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