Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1152 Spoilers Discussion

[soupongo]

"Real Men Fighting"
King's Victim was using one admiral as a Volley Ball performing jump serve

And King's victim was using another admiral as light bag performing Side Kick

For 20 years people thought Marco was admiral level because of LAdmrial's piss poor showings.

Has Pokemon Admiral ever had a W on panel that wasn't on injured and distractec opponents?

As opposed to Mihawks legendary list of wins. Like uhhh

 

[comrade]

He is a swordsman but once he uses his powers he no longer is doing a swordsman combat

Not that hard to comprehend

Oden blew Kaido out of the skies with one hit and he isn't even the peak of what swordsmanship can do. Fujitora's gravity couldn't tickle Luffy, since it's just blunt force. The gravity fruit is simply a china version of ACoC.

Furthermore, that "next stage" of ACoC will probably be hax that shuts down DF powers just like Joyboy and Shanks did and Zoro is teased to learn it, which isn't "swordsmanship" either, yet part of his arsenal towards becoming the WSS.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Nice cope but DF powers aren't swordsmanship

when Mihawk can summon meteor with his sword or create vines, then you can @ me

Mihawk maxes out at most at fruitless admiral lvl

Mihawk’s title isn’t “the strongest person who only fights using a sword” (btw this would include shanks)… Mihawk’s title is “the strongest swordsman in the world”… So if you’re a swordsman, mihawk is stronger than you

Unfortunately for you, you seem to forget that Pda is very fine with DF users being swordsmen

 

[gz89]

 

[nik87]

Only Yoru is strong enough to handle Mihawk's swordsmanship at it's strongest

We all should have seen the kanji broken down yes? for anyone that does not know, the manga says Mihawk's sword skills, and by extension sword techniques are superior to Shanks

Divine Departure for example has only ever been described as a sword technique, it uses the exact same Kanji. Regardless if it uses Haki.

Therefore Mihawk's sword techniques are superior to Shanks's Divine Departure, by extension this also means:

His sword techniques are superior to Rogers, since Shanks is just copying Rogers swordsmanship, though he elevated it.

Even Oden self proclaimed his swordsmanship as the strongest, meaning by the time he returned to Wano, he considered Paradise Totsuka for example to be superior to Rogers Divine Departure, which it was clearly.

I very rarely come across a post where I am in agreement nearly word for word...

 

[grey matter]

Sengoku, Rayleigh, Katakuri, even Mihawk are all calm and calculating. When their hand is forced, they won’t back down nor fear anything just like Law. They’re not really headstrong characters like Luffy.

For Coby, he’s inexperienced and growing. This “conqueror material” is pretty much hoopla. The conquerors we have are all varying in personality. You just need really strong willpower, that’s why Usopp unlocking CoC is a real thing imo. The dude can show the strongest willpower at the right moment.

Coby will always be the clearest example that the whole “muh kingly qualities” thing is BS

You’re either born with it or you’re not

If not for Luffy beating Alvida and motivating him he would’ve been an East Blue Pirate’s slave for the rest of his life

But XYZ character can’t get it because they don’t possess the qualities

Oda has never had a rule regarding conqueror’s that he hasn’t broken. Conqueror’s are supposed to have an “unbreakable will” but Chinjao lost to Garp once and completely gave up

I’ve said it for ages and I’ll say it again. Oda will give conqueror’s to whoever he sees fit regardless of whether it makes sense or not

At this point, yeah it's arguable that a strict pattern is no longer a thing.

But let's be honest, Oda did really play into the "kingly qualities" thing multiple times. Played into "personalities" of conquerors etc.
There are many cases where this was blanantly stated in manga. Stuff like those guys aren't the type to work under others, would tend to squabble if put together, unreasonably stubborn, indominable spirits, etc.
Whitebeard used this line of thinking to deny Oden even.

It didn't help that the poster boys of conquerors - Roger, the OG Yonkos and the 4 new gen conquerors (Luffy/Ace/Zoro/Kid) perfectly fit the description as well. Unreasonably stubborn and prideful knuckleheads.
One can't fault readers who chose this interpretation really.

I think it's a mix of both. Oda wants to have his cake and eat it too (unsure if this is the correct analogy lol).
Oda wants to use the persona argument when he wants to (especially when he wants to do something like highlight the persona), but sometimes he just hands it out to whoever just cause he wants to (like Koby)

 

[ShishioIsBack]

As opposed to Mihawks legendary list of wins. Like uhhh

He doesn't need to
Guy whose life long goal is pushing Mihawk past mid diff is doing this to characters who use AdmiraLs as sports equipment

Well characters stronger than characters who use AdmiraLs as sporting equipment

How big boys play

How admiraLs play

 

[Rurushu]

At this point, yeah it's arguable that a strict pattern is no longer a thing.

But let's be honest, Oda did really play into the "kingly qualities" thing multiple times. Played into "personalities" of conquerors etc.
There are many cases where this was blanantly stated in manga. Stuff like those guys aren't the type to work under others, would tend to squabble if put together, unreasonably stubborn, indominable spirits, etc.
Whitebeard used this line of thinking to deny Oden even.

It didn't help that the poster boys of conquerors - Roger, the OG Yonkos and the 4 new gen conquerors (Luffy/Ace/Zoro/Kid) perfectly fit the description as well. Unreasonably stubborn and prideful knuckleheads.
One can't fault readers who chose this interpretation really.

I think it's a mix of both. Oda wants to have his cake and eat it too (unsure if this is the correct analogy lol).
Oda wants to use the persona argument when he wants to (especially when he wants to do something like highlight the persona), but sometimes he just hands it out to whoever just cause he wants to (like Koby)

Oda really made Chinjao and King ask what kind of King Luffy/Zoro want to be when like half of CoC users don't have that kind of title/ambition.

 

[Dragon777]

That's not what I mean. Oda uses gags but he always does in certain manners. Making a character go, "YES I'LL GET COC NEXT LOL. YES ME," in a gag is NOT how he'd tease the acquirement of a serious character defining thing lol

As I said, I don't really see the difference: his Fire Powers are literally a gag made Power.

This "he's talking about me" It's the Sanji's version of "I am the second of the crew".

The fact that Gaban has Is and It's needed to fight HK/Gorosei is already an almost certain foreshadowing on his own.

 

[soupongo]

He doesn't need to
Guy whose life long goal is pushing Mihawk past mid diff is doing this to characters who use AdmiraLs as sports equipment

Well characters stronger than characters who use AdmiraLs as sporting equipment

How big boys play

How admiraLs play

How did It go for King when he tried jumping an admiral with all his boys?
How did it go for Vista when he tried fighting Mihawk who begged him to delay the fight?

 

[Garps tekkai]

So they do not only need to have CoC, they even need to have a further advanced form of CoC coating.
Even someone like Yamato would need a training camp then. RIP to Law and Sanji right now.

Wild that Oda really went with that. Either he really does it very sly, where some of the HKs go down here and there by just having poor luck an meeting exactly one of like not even two handful of people, who can down them or Oda will make a handful of guys HK ans Gorosei ready.

This certainly does well for Sabo, who's directly linked to anti-WG business. He might get the juice later on

 

[Woozles]

Dorry and Brogy is only better as a callback to Little Garden and for agenda purposes

Sommers is infinitely more interesting as an opponent for Sanji

Killingham has the “aura” of a Zoro opponent but he doesn’t have the fighting style of one. A fight between them would essentially just be Killingham whipping up Nightmare Fodder for Zoro to oneshot before going back to CQC

Dorry/Brogy with their raw strength feel like either could be a Zoro opponent

True, but have you considered

Killingham: I take your mightmares and make them reality

Then he tries to create nightmares from zoro and gets nothing

Zoro proceeds to do the end of fight oneshot he always does

Zoro: I've long forgotten my nightmares (Or some other variation)

 

[Fn Lucci]

It's in the book series Oda based Whole Cake Island on. You realize he basically based the betrayal of Germa on the Red Wedding in GoT?

Source?

 

[Dragon777]

So they do not only need to have CoC, they even need to have a further advanced form of CoC coating.
Even someone like Yamato would need a training camp then. RIP to Law and Sanji right now.

Wild that Oda really went with that. Either he really does it very sly, where some of the HKs go down here and there by just having poor luck an meeting exactly one of like not even two handful of people, who can down them or Oda will make a handful of guys HK ans Gorosei ready.

This certainly does well for Sabo, who's directly linked to anti-WG business. He might get the juice later on

Oda Is clearly going to give this power to a bunch of people, as always.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Don't be slow. Or are you just running from the truth?

I didn't say it was impossible, Oda isn't the writer he used to be. But you don't want to put much stock into this one.

 

[Juanpiz]

I didn't say it was impossible, Oda isn't the writer he used to be. But you don't want to put much stock into this one.

Looking at the last chapters he isnt the Artist he used to be too..

 

[kurwa]

"Real Men Fighting"
King's Victim was using one admiral as a Volley Ball performing jump serve

And King's victim was using another admiral as light bag performing Side Kick

For 20 years people thought Marco was admiral level because of LAdmrial's piss poor showings.

Has Pokemon Admiral ever had a W on panel that wasn't on injured and distractec opponents?

See,
Marco himself knows he is required for the big boys meanwhile for Mihawk he knows his underling YC5 is more than sufficient since he knows Mihawk can't get past his underling

Zoro doesn't create haki from a sword either moron
He uses it as a conduit from haki coming from him
So none of zoros attacks are swordsmanship according to you

Yikes this much of a cope

haki is part of natural humanity just like arms and mouth, so they are used just any other human organ.
a DF is not.

proceed to cope and seethe

 

[Gears Kaios]

And Kaido thought he'd find the One Piece. Weird how sometimes these characters are fuckin wrong

Difference is Gaban is Sanji’s parallel
If you can’t understand that then you simply don’t understand the story at all lol

 

[ShishioIsBack]

See,
Marco himself knows he is required for the big boys meanwhile for Mihawk he knows his underling YC5 is more than sufficient since he knows Mihawk can't get past his underling

Yikes this much of a cope

haki is part of natural humanity just like arms and mouth, so they are used just any other human organ.
a DF is not.

proceed to cope and seethe

Bro this is sad AF
CuckFuckPokemon AdmiRaLs failed to defeat Marco with their dear life, with cheap shots, with cuffs sea stone and every trick in the book.

King turned him into a Mummy and Man of God by himself and Zoro fodderized King


It really sounds so sad when Sanjifucks and Admiral-Sissies have to cling on to tiny feats and inflate them when we literally have Zoro scarring Kaido, blocking Hakai, destroying YC1 and flipping Bosses of Admirals on their ass.

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How did It go for King when he tried jumping an admiral with all his boys?
How did it go for Vista when he tried fighting Mihawk who begged him to delay the fight?

King didn't try jumping an Admiral you clown
Nearly Dead King, Mummified King, 2% strength King was jumped by Green Brocolli.

Fresh King likely trashes him same way Marco trashed Admirals.

 

[kurwa]

Oden blew Kaido out of the skies with one hit and he isn't even the peak of what swordsmanship can do. Fujitora's gravity couldn't tickle Luffy, since it's just blunt force. The gravity fruit is simply a china version of ACoC.

Furthermore, that "next stage" of ACoC will probably be hax that shuts down DF powers just like Joyboy and Shanks did and Zoro is teased to learn it, which isn't "swordsmanship" either, yet part of his arsenal towards becoming the WSS.

What is this yapping?

What does gravity and holding back Fujitora not hurting Goofy and kaido jobbing supposed to prove? The fuck lmao?

"muh advCoC yap yap yap"
once again, schizo, this has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

Mihawk’s title isn’t “the strongest person who only fights using a sword” (btw this would include shanks)… Mihawk’s title is “the strongest swordsman in the world”… So if you’re a swordsman, mihawk is stronger than you

Unfortunately for you, you seem to forget that Pda is very fine with DF users being swordsmen

He can have any title he wants, that doesn't change a fact that a DF user using a DF power is not swordsmanship thus it's no longer a swordmanship fight and Mihawk's dusty title is null&void