Chapter Discussion ONE PIECE CHAPTER: 1161 : A LOVE BALLAD IN HAIL OF ARROWS

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Btw this chapter confirms Rookie BM > near-prime Shiki as No 3 of Rocks after Primebeard

A wide AoE atk that could kill em both unguarded, yet BM was the only one confirmed able to fight Primebeard head on

Moreover Shiki got treated like Rookie Kaido in the following panel, who def has much better dura than him (remember Shiki was afraid of him fighting Xebec and destroying the island)

The dynamics are painfully clear, Primebeard > rookie Linlin > rookie Kaido > near-prime Shiki

Not surprising as Shiki needed his own proper rival introduced in his little corner @park_min young @Sir Yasheen @The DevilMaster @MonsterKaido @Hanzo hattori
 
Btw this chapter confirms Rookie BM > near-prime Shiki as No 3 of Rocks after Primebeard

A wide AoE atk that could kill em both unguarded, yet BM was the only one confirmed to fight him head on

Moreover Shiki got treated like Rookie Kaido in the following panel, who def has much better dura than him (remember Shiki was afraid of him fighting Xebec and destroying the island)

The dynamics are painfully clear, Primebeard > rookie Linlin > rookie Kaido > near-prime Shiki

Not surprising as Shiki needed his own proper rival introduced in his little corner @park_min young @Sir Yasheen @The DevilMaster @MonsterKaido @Hanzo hattori
Whitebeard was actually aiming at Shiki tho lmao. Big mom was just nearly collateral diffed like killer.
 
This is still Garp's hype tho.
WB(who is already relative to Roger even at GV) and rocks era BM/Kaido cannot stomp Garp even 3v1.
WB, who is already relative to Roger, who was already relative to Garp is able to 3v1 himself. Very cool take.

Even better that his stronger version of himself with his relative (Sengoku) needed to 2v1 Shiki, who's also their relative.


This agenda holds no bounds to incoherency :smart::zehaha:
 
Btw this chapter confirms Rookie BM > near-prime Shiki as No 3 of Rocks after Primebeard

A wide AoE atk that could kill em both unguarded, yet BM was the only one confirmed able to fight Primebeard head on

Moreover Shiki got treated like Rookie Kaido in the following panel, who def has much better dura than him (remember Shiki was afraid of him fighting Xebec and destroying the island)

The dynamics are painfully clear, Primebeard > rookie Linlin > rookie Kaido > near-prime Shiki

Not surprising as Shiki needed his own proper rival introduced in his little corner @park_min young @Sir Yasheen @The DevilMaster @MonsterKaido @Hanzo hattori
Shiki need a lot of manga feats to be considered above Big Mom or Kaido.
 
Garp thing isn't linlin dehype though. Sengoku mentioned current BM >> Rocks version BM.

We know haki can defend against elemental attacks case and point Kuzan's ice ball not working on old garp.
I like how he considers that a crazy reaction that means she's below Garp but Aramaki twerking for Shanks, getting his fruit turned off and sweating and yelling doesn't mean anything..
 

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Garp thing isn't linlin dehype though. Sengoku mentioned current BM >> Rocks version BM.

We know haki can defend against elemental attacks case and point Kuzan's ice ball not working on old garp.
It's Garp hype, I don't care for the feat. I care for the respect. Big Mom is drawn shit scared of Garp, and the 3 future Yonkou are running away from him.

Big Mom hype/dehype already came in the current storyline. There's really nothing BM can do power wise that will change much.
 
He literally told him to stay out of it , Garp was just persistent .
You’re thinking of two separate times. The Marineford attack took place 3 years after Edd war. In those three years Sengoku learned he couldn’t take Shiki alone hence why he had Garp help him when Shiki arrived.
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He was aiming at enemy. BM and Shiki both dodged it but only BM was ready to throw hands with him. Shiki's rival almost got killed by a handbomb lol
Yet between the two the only one Whitebeard denied aiming for was Big Mom. Dude was annoyed Shiki was alive.

Let big mom stick with Kaido where she belongs. She has no chance with actual PK rivals.
 
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