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What a moronic thing to say lol
how? garps attack is weaksauce the haki streaks are tiny
luffy outputs much larger haki than that
roger and whtiebeard clash also basic haki
luffy vs kaido was on amuch bigger scale

old gen got overrated because oda left it to imagination how they would look when they fight and fans will naturally fantasise over things that arent shown

now we seeing them in action they are clearly weaker than the current generation
 

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fruitless Aokiji is equal to Prime Garp but he needs the devil fruit to fight 78 year old Garp, very interesting
Fruit use is basically aesthetic at this point in the manga lmfao. Whitebeard didn’t need his fruit to match Roger, so logically with his fruit he should be exponentially stronger than Roger but alas, Whitebeard is instead designated as one of Rival Man’s Seven Rivals

Anyway point is we saw at the battleship bag that fruitless Aokiji reached prime Garp level and fruitless Sakazuki should at minimum be as strong as fruitless Aokiji.
 
I still can't get over the fact that Jiraiya's excuse for Naruto only learning a slightly bigger rasengan in 2 whole years (which took shadow clones to make mind you 😭) was that the training focused on controlling the kyuubi......yet Naruto somehow got even worse control over the 9 tails as he let it consume him unlike ever before the literal first 2 arcs back from the ts😭

Anytime I think Oda is off his rockers I think back to prime Kishi, he was on one.
Part 1 Naruto can handle 1 tail just fine but Post-TS Naruto can’t handle 2 tails
 
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