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Who has the greatest cutting skills ?


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To this day I've no idea how we baited Zoro bros into Cracker debates lmfao. Shit was funny. @ZenZu @Kurozumi Wiwi @SakazOuki
It's precisely because I think that take is bait/a joke that I never participated in those conversations.
I mean he probably did come out as strong as Luffy

It’s just Luffy got fucktons of power ups in WCI and Wano.

But like, Koby’s bounty going into Hachinosu was 500 mil, same as Luffy’s.
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It’s because Zoro and Sanji became significantly stronger than their opponents in the course of those fights.

While Luffy just barely surpassed his opponents in WCI.
My point is, Koby right now is too heavily reliant on portrayal. And portrayal can get you far (Imu is the second strongest in the verse mainly off of pure portrayal) but I'd really like it if he had some feats.
 
I wish Oda handled him with more care. He said Lucci took down some level 6 escapees and that's how he became a CP0 member, but he couldn't do that for Koby?
Koby was trained personally by Garp and we know training with a top tier can make you jump several tiers, i.e Luffy being trained by Rayleigh and becoming YC4-YC3 level over the span of 2 years.
Given Koby was trained by someone very slightly above Rayleigh, it makes no sense that he didn't come out of the timeskip around the same level as Luffy. I hope Oda reveals that, during the Rocky Port Incident, he took down a few level 6 escapees that took refuge in Hachinosu to escape the WG.
He isn´t that guy and never will be. Lucci is a monster and a famous prodigy of cipher pol, who nearly defeated Luffy, and was schooling strawhats before that. Koby got one shot by Luffy low diff.

Lucci returns to the timeskip with level 6 prisoners taken down, and awakened DF and an attitude where he doesn´t even recognize Luffys status as a Yonko. Koby has a fraudulent hero title, muh spread and muh parallels, all of which doesn´t let him beat Hancock or any strong BBP 1v1.

Koby will never be more of a rival to Luffy then Lucci was, pushing him in the most iconic fight of the manga.
 
He isn´t that guy and never will be. Lucci is a monster and a famous prodigy of cipher pol, who nearly defeated Luffy, and was schooling strawhats before that. Koby got one shot by Luffy low diff.

Lucci returns to the timeskip with level 6 prisoners taken down, and awakened DF and an attitude where he doesn´t even recognize Luffys status as a Yonko. Koby has a fraudulent hero title, muh spread and muh parallels, all of which doesn´t let him beat Hancock or any strong BBP 1v1.

Koby will never be more of a rival to Luffy then Lucci was, pushing him in the most iconic fight of the manga.
Soupongo when he hears the name "Koby"
 
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He´s not that guy and never will be. Pre ts was a Lucci victim, and remains so. And yet in the mythical EOS he will suddenly be on Garps level.
-Trained by a top tier with some of the best Haki and physical stats in the verse
-Participated in the Rocky Port Incident
-Bounty of 500M as a captain
-Is referred to by Garp as his "beloved protege"
-Said to be the future of the Marines twice
-Can bust mountains open with a single, widespread ACoA shockwave
"Nah bro he's a Lucci victim he'll never be on Garp's level even though he's being groomed by Garp himself to become the Garp of his generation!"
Lmfao.
 
-Trained by a top tier with some of the best Haki and physical stats in the verse
-Participated in the Rocky Port Incident
-Bounty of 500M as a captain
-Is referred to by Garp as his "beloved protege"
-Said to be the future of the Marines twice
-Can bust mountains open with a single, widespread ACoA shockwave
"Nah bro he's a Lucci victim he'll never be on Garp's level even though he's being groomed by Garp himself to become the Garp of his generation!"
Lmfao.
None of this changes the fact that he´s weaker then Lucci, Doflamingo and Katakuri.
 
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