Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1170: REVERSE

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Devilbat

Just chill and let chill
Damn, can't read the chapter because the website is not accessible to me in my vacation country :catcry: gotta wait for the official I guess. Seems epic from those glimpses I caught!!!
Woki will never join loserhats at this point tho.
And I still cannot understand why Loki got imprisoned for so many years with Gaban's blessing, like wtf?
 
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K!NG HARA$H!MA

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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Serving the same purpose =/= describing the same thing. I clearly disproved that bizarre assertion of yours with that earlier reductio ad absurdum.

Why is "World's Strongest Man" describing superiority over all men any more absurd than "World's Strongest Swordsman" describing superiority over all sword users? Your logic is just arbitrary and circular.
Nah bruh, Mihawk's title is also describing superiority over the male gender... :kriwhat:
 
I assume Ragnir going to be connected to the very origin of how objects can eat DFs that was later utilised and discovered by Vegapunk? He solved it, I believe.

Funkfreed. Lasso. Cerberus.
Ragnir could be the answer or maybe even the origin of how this works.
 
I really dislike the implication that Imu might be completely controlling their thoughts. Wouldn’t that just absolve the Celestial Dragons of their sins? Are the Gorosei and the Holy Knights supposed to be comically evil only because of Imu’s influence?
I think it was explained, in this chapter, that Knights of God are not really controlled by Imu: Imu only removes their inhibitory brakes, their moral constraints, making them feel supreme and above everybody else. Which means that Imu only removes what makes them good human beings, the Knight still retains his own free will in his decisions and movements, but he is influenced by the fact that his psyche is made greedy for power and impassive to the suffering of others.
When Harald warns Loki to be quick is not because Imu is about to move him like a puppet, it's because Imu's oath will overwhelm him again and make him feel like a God, completely ignoring his connection to Loki. This I how I understood it.
 

Devilbat

Just chill and let chill
I really dislike the implication that Imu might be completely controlling their thoughts. Wouldn’t that just absolve the Celestial Dragons of their sins? Are the Gorosei and the Holy Knights supposed to be comically evil only because of Imu’s influence?
I'd say it depends, like Harald was brought up as a regular person and not a CD, so he has his ups and downs, but he's not comically evil. Shamrock was raised among CD's his whole life and he thinks that everyone who's not a CD is an insect, and is evil regardless Imu's influence imo.
 

The Holy Knights are 95% in Mary Geoise.

They're lazy bums.
They didn't stop Fisher Tiger and didn't want to stop the revos in Reverie.

They only go out to buy/kidnap slaves/wives and for missions.
 
Because the two had a conversation off screen and rsgnir saw something in him he liked.

And again Harald never saw interest in the fruit so we can’t confirm nor deny he ever tried.
Man you’re so much trash I can’t even believe it, man you probably have a punchable face, why don’t you just shut up and cope quietly.

Loki is stronger than Harald, you can’t do anything about this, accept and embrace it.
 
I think it was explained, in this chapter, that Knights of God are not really controlled by Imu: Imu only removes their inhibitory brakes, their moral constraints, making them feel supreme and above everybody else. Which means that Imu only removes what makes them good human beings, the Knight still retains his own free will in his decisions and movements, but he is influenced by the fact that his psyche is made greedy for power and impassive to the suffering of others.
When Harald warns Loki to be quick is not because Imu is about to move him like a puppet, it's because Imu's oath will overwhelm him again and make him feel like a God, completely ignoring his connection to Loki. This I how I understood it.
I like that interpretation and I hope you’re right. But Harald said he was starting to think of himself as a god in the TCB translations, which sounds eerily similar to how the Gorosei or the Holy Knights talk. If just an hour of Imu’s influence was enough to push Harald into that mindset, then what about the Holy Knights or the Gorosei who have been under it for decades? How much of that way of thinking is actually innate to them?
 
It did, he wouldn't win if Harald didn't decide to commit suicide.
Did you miss the panels where he was throwing Harald around, he clearly overpowered him even before Harald regained control.

Loki would have won regardless
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Their brains are full of shit and I’m so done with these idiots
 
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