Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1170: REVERSE

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I'm not trying to downplay... Shanks is a character that has done all the things in his life with the help of others, other than rekting Kidd.
No reason to believe he started soloing people when Loki is in question. The reason to doubt is that Loki calls Shanks a coward.

It is not a gender based title, that is silly. Not a single WS title is gender based, it never was.
Kaido was stronger than WB the entire time since 28 years onwards and he wasnt a WSM, that alone is enough proof.
Loki said he was joking and it was to piss Luffy off. There is no reason at all to believe Shanks used deception or jumped him with his crew, and until the manga gives reason to believe that, I'll stick to what it says, which is that Shanks beat Loki.

It literally is a gender based title lol, it is "世界最強の男" and "男" is for the male gender. If the title was World's Strongest Human it would be "世界最強の人間" since "人間" is for humans. And I don't understand your point about how "none of the other titles are gender so this one can't be!", Mihawk's title is for a combat style and Kaido's is for living things as a whole, there is no relation between any of them at all.
 
Great feats by Loki, but spoiler providers clearly overhyped him. It took a combination of Gaban/Shanks slowing Harald down so when his arm was off it Harald gave Loki a free shot and enough time for the kill.

It made no sense for Loki to be stronger than DR Harald. Even after Shamrock and Nurko massively nerfing him, Oda wouldn't have Luffy casually KO him in his base if he were that strong.
 
Back in the present we will have:

-Luffy and Loki vs Imunko (with Brook talking to Gunko trying to make her rebel,and a brief flashback of her past)

-Zoro vs Sommers

-Sanji vs Killingham

-Gaban assisting both Zoro and Sanji with advices on how to use Haki

-Usopp trying to make Dory and Brogy good again somehow

-Shamrock wont come back, he will fight Shanks later in the story

-I guess around 25 chapters for the end of Elbaph?
Did you see his jump festa message? To me it looked like once the flashbacks over, elbaf will be over and we will move on to the next arc, nothing you listed can be fleshed out bc this is flashback piece
 
Back in the present we will have:

-Luffy and Loki vs Imunko (with Brook talking to Gunko trying to make her rebel,and a brief flashback of her past)

-Zoro vs Sommers

-Sanji vs Killingham

-Gaban assisting both Zoro and Sanji with advices on how to use Haki

-Usopp trying to make Dory and Brogy good again somehow

-Shamrock wont come back, he will fight Shanks later in the story

-I guess around 25 chapters for the end of Elbaph?
I actually don’t think Loki will fight Imu (directly)

Someone has to fight Domi-Dorry/Brogy and I think Loki even while nerfed should be up to the task

I think it’ll be a tag team between Loki and Usopp (with Usopp trying to save his masters)

Luffy and Brook against Gunko (we know Brook’s fruit has some weird shenanigans that can even effect people significantly stronger than him)

Sanji vs Sommers

Zoro vs Killingham

The rest of the Strawhats will focus on Domi Giant Army/protecting Jarul

I could see Jinbei trying to put out the fires on the branches/heading to the library

But I think Usopp will make some of the biggest contributions to saving the children/putting out the fires along with Jinbei
 
Last chapter of 2025 is one of the best ( I would only put Xebec invading holy land chapter as better ) in 2025 , so Oda did say farewell to 2025 in a style.

Great chapter for Loki as character , an emotional ending to Harald and probably the end of flashback in next chapter.

We learned a lot of new things like how do deal with immortality , we learned what Ragnir is and we finally got answer to mystery if Loki indeed has Legendary devil fruit .

Fruit pretty much deserved its legendary status seeing how easily Loki beat HK Harald while being transformed. Funny we still have to find out what exactly it is.

Overall 10 / 10 chapter with Elbaf arc having potential to be one of best arcs in one piece history.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Loki said he was joking and it was to piss Luffy off. There is no reason at all to believe Shanks used deception or jumped him with his crew, and until the manga gives reason to believe that, I'll stick to what it says, which is that Shanks beat Loki.

It literally is a gender based title lol, it is "世界最強の男" and "男" is for the male gender. If the title was World's Strongest Human it would be "世界最強の人間" since "人間" is for humans. And I don't understand your point about how "none of the other titles are gender so this one can't be!", Mihawk's title is for a combat style and Kaido's is for living things as a whole, there is no relation between any of them at all.
I have my doubts about it being to piss Luffy off but fair enough, we will wait and see.
Just feels weird that in the moment of the story when Oda wants to hype Loki up, he reveals a loss to Shanks... Self-sabotage kinda.

When you say Mankind, you also include Women... Not everything needs to be spelled out.
Not a single title is gender based. Oda never bothered to make a single title for women.
He only made a distinction for those who do not fall under humans and gave him a superior title, so WB can keep his.
 
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