Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1170: REVERSE

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Loki is too strong. I thought the legendary devil fruit could be Surtr, but now it seems to be Nidhogg, if Oda makes it cool then fine by me.

Hajrudin defeated Machvise's 10,000 ton technique. By the look of the size of Ragnir, it could be weighted around 100,000 ton as much as an aircraft carrier. It's not accurate but there is a drastic difference between their strengths.

Garling never went to get his child back? or maybe he is CoCless. If he really is CoCless, then Shanks and Shamrock must be genetic jackpot. And Shanks manage to achieved CoC level as close as Joyboy has nothing to do with his father. That makes Shanks capturing Loki a real feat. Probably after what he witnessed from the Ragnir's DF, he went around the world searching for Gryphon and slap it into his sword, to become stronger. This also completes the lore of the squirrel stirring shits between Nidhogg and wise-Eagle.

Just one strike and Harald is gone, such a sad ending to Harald's life.

Zoan DF can stay forever inside an object as long as the object didn't break. It seems like this is the correct way to utilize them.

The squirrel also doesn't seems like it's awaken like the Shamrock's Cerberus, maybe Cerberus is given by Imu.
 
Maybe the squirrel was indeed told to guard the DF by Joyboy himself and reckoned Loki as Nika ?

This would be more 3 dimensional to have many Nika in the present timeline that just Goofy who inherited everything.
Maybe Oda is trying to redeem himself from the critics of being anti freedom and pro-prophecy.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
No, Nik. You are the one that is simply wrong and I'm the only one that has actually provided evidence to back it up. 男 is used for gender in Japanese the same way "male" and "female" are used in English. It is not equivalent to "human" or "mankind" as you tried so erroneously to claim.

If Oda's intent was to hype Whitebeard above the entire population, he'd use titles like "世界最強の人間" (World's Strongest Human), "世界最強の人" (World's Strongest Person). But instead he used "世界最強の男" (World's Strongest Male). You're assuming intent from absolutely nothing even when the words the author used entirely disagree. And besides, the strongest characters in One Piece are all objectively men, Whitebeard's title putting him above them automatically includes women indirectly.
You are stuck explaining the kanji instead of using common sense...
As I said, the goal was never to hype up the strongest among half the population.
 
You are stuck explaining the kanji instead of using common sense...
As I said, the goal was never to hype up the strongest among half the population.
I'm stuck using the words that the author put into the manga instead of words that you want him to have put in the manga.

Whitebeard's title doesn't even do that for a clear reason that I've already explained, his title is about power, being put above all men automatically puts him above all women as a consequence, there is literally only a single female top tier in One Piece history and most think she's a fodder anyway.
 
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the hammer did not go extreme diff (barely defeating lmao)

gaban and shanks were beating up and jumping circles around Harald, either harald is way weaker than domi xebec or gaban and shanks are stronger than GV garp and roger

and of course harald let himself get killed
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
I'm stuck using the words that the author put into the manga instead of words that you want him to have put in the manga.

Whitebeard's title doesn't even do that for a clear reason that I've already explained, his title is about power, being put above all men automatically puts him above all women as a consequence, there is literally only a single female top tier in One Piece history and most think she's a fodder anyway.
Genders are irrelevant to OP's power scaling for the very reason you just mentioned so the titles are not about genders.
This is a very basic 2+2, idk why you are even arguing it...
 
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