Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1170: REVERSE

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Bro what do you mean stance? Your stance got debunked over and over and over again. Its literally stated they are using Conquerors haki coating. They is no more " stance"
Dude, ignore it. There is no more compelling and clear evidence than this. It is literally what is shown in the manga image, also supported by Gaban's words and yet this idiot continues to deny it. There is nothing else to do xD
 
No one was able to give the mythical hammer a swelling on the forehead for centuries ? We need more explanations and also a flashback about the history of the squirrel and who gave him the instructions to guard the DF...
Some people brought up the option that chopper might be able to talk to it. Oda scarcely ever let Chopper do that throughout the story; it could be interesting what Ragnir has to say.

 

Kizaruber Eats

Loki is burdened with glorious purpose.
Damn, can't read the chapter because the website is not accessible to me in my vacation country :catcry: gotta wait for the official I guess. Seems epic from those glimpses I caught!!!
Woki will never join loserhats at this point tho.
And I still cannot understand why Loki got imprisoned for so many years with Gaban's blessing, like wtf?
Try here:
https://cubari.moe/read/imgchest/dl7pnr9b8yo/1/1/
https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/NxTUytv/1/1/

@MonsterKaido some alt links for the chapter, if you could add to your OP?

I tried to use TCB site but its just pure cancer, won't even load, it just redirects once it loads the page. It just seems to be virus and porn ad hell.
 
I like that interpretation and I hope you’re right. But Harald said he was starting to think of himself as a god in the TCB translations, which sounds eerily similar to how the Gorosei or the Holy Knights talk. If just an hour of Imu’s influence was enough to push Harald into that mindset, then what about the Holy Knights or the Gorosei who have been under it for decades? How much of that way of thinking is actually innate to them?
I guess that really depends on the individual and, with some good writing, Oda could show us a spectrum of Knights/Elders that already had that inclination and others that were pressured into it. Similar to the layers or nature v. nurture we saw with Doflamingo and Rocinante.

I think the majority of them were already evil persons, I mean, in most cases you should volenteer to be a Knight right? Garling is the top example of it imo: he was already born a psychopath with natural combat skills and the pact with Imu enhanched his nature even more. If I look at Sommers or Maffey, they also don't strike me as people that were good before the pact.
But there could be some exceptions like Gunko (pretty much confirmed) or even Shamrock, who I expect to showcase how the difference in nurture (and the mentorship/father you grow up with) between him and Shanks can change the type of man you become even when you were born at the same time with the same blood: one who grew up with a positive father figure like Roger and the other with an ice-cold father figure like Garling.

Also, but this is just my gut feeling, Killingham could be a Celestial that wasn't so evil like Garling or Sommers, but his pact with Imu played a big part in his current personality.
 

Devilbat

Just chill and let chill
Try here:
https://cubari.moe/read/imgchest/dl7pnr9b8yo/1/1/
https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/NxTUytv/1/1/

@MonsterKaido some alt links for the chapter, if you could add to your OP?

I tried to use TCB site but its just pure cancer, won't even load, it just redirects once it loads the page. It just seems to be virus and porn ad hell.
Ty, cubari.moe isn't banned here. Wretched internet this island has. At least the fruit bats are hella cute!
TCB is scary with the amount of ads lately, guess everyone tries to get as much dough as possible with OP hype..
 
This chaper shows once again that Oda himself is the fraud. He keeps milking that Conqueror's Haki as a story hook over and over. So apparently the secret to overcoming the bothersome recovery is just to use Conqueror's Haki, pure and simple, and Luffy supposedly never considered using it in his fight against Saturn and the other Gorosei, even in G5, despite being very angry at the start and wondering about how to harm them.
And like Zoro against King having to "learn" the secret of the power of Conqueror's Haki, despite having been shown to use it about 2 times in the fight against Kaido already, and Kaido even telling him, Oda STILL uses it to create massive fake tension after all this time, for both Luffy and Zoro, despite Luffy having been introduced as an expert of it even before G5.
This suggests that Oda had intimidated one of the leading Japanese OP theorists Yuderon out of his activity (and maybe even symbolically shot him in the head in the form of Vegapunk's Shaka?) simply because he runs out of genuine mysteries and surprises.
 
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Did you miss the panels where he was throwing Harald around, he clearly overpowered him even before Harald regained control.

Loki would have won regardless
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Their brains are full of shit and I’m so done with these idiots
So one swipe in zoan form and Harald completely recovering from that is a low diff?
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Sorry bro, I don't think Joemundgandr had hands and claws:josad:
Maybe it's weird in hybrid form.
 
Loki has been so well written every time he was on screen. Amazing work by Oda, something we lacked for quite a few years.

It's great that he never once was written as having second thoughts when Elbaf's future was at play in this encounter with Harald. He knew killing his dad would be a gargantuan task - emotionally and physically. Bet never once did he flinch when Harald told him it was only a matter of time before he was taken over again.

Amazing resolve by what is a teen in giant's years.

Wisg we could have seen the DF but it was always a given it would be revealed in the story proper and not a flashback.
 
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