Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 1182: ZAZA

[kekaro]

Oda already gave us the hint by super Summers which is the anti Sanji parallel, also Sanji flying like a dragon ball character is another hint. Real Sanji awakening is coming.

Speaking of Super Sommers
@Welkin Someone said to me Super Sommers is fighting zoro cause Super Sommers is a basiacly a evil version of sanji (like king but even more so)
They kinda have a point but it still sucks

 

[Welkin]

Speaking of Super Super Sommers
@Welkin Someone said to me Super Super Sommers is fighting zoro cause Super Super Sommers is a basiacly a evil version of sanji (like king but even more so)
They kinda have a point but it still sucks

Yeah that's like the only narrative tie they could possibly have

People keep saying he's also a swordsman but... he isn't even close lol

Having a sheathe doesn't make you a swordsman. He uses a club

 

[kekaro]

Yeah that's like the only narrative tie they could possibly have

People keep saying he's also a swordsman but... he isn't even close lol

Having a sheathe doesn't make you a swordsman. He uses a club

It can transform, so he will probally make a sword of it i imagine, i mean he made even a peashooter lmao

 

[Fujishiro]

So I read something interesting on NF that I glossed over, Ive been positing that Imu still holds hope to recruit Loki to his side given that the chapter prior to this one he tried to form a pact with him, then again with Gunkimu he tried to get him to flip and again prior to that with the Gods Knights trying to recruit Loki.

What if the strength we need refers to Loki and the giants here?

And the strength we ought to destroy would be Luffy/Nika?

Does it make sense?

@Kurozumi Wiwi @park_min young @Loki D. Terror @Sentinel @kekaro @MonochromeYoru ,etc​

 

[kekaro]

So I read something interesting on NF that I glossed over, Ive been positing that Imu still holds hope to recruit Loki to his side given that the chapter prior to this one he tried to form a pact with him, then again with Gunkimu he tried to get him to flip and again prior to that with the Gods Knights trying to recruit Loki.

What if the strength we need refers to Loki and the giants here?

And the strength we ought to destroy would be Luffy/Nika?

Does it make sense?

@Kurozumi Wiwi @park_min young @Loki D. Terror @Sentinel @kekaro @MonochromeYoru ,etc​

My problem is that the" strength we need to destroy confuses" line confuses me.
Maybe its a language barrier issue, but it sounds to me like they're talking about themselves right? Given they talking about the exception on THEM

So the power they need is the giant army. Thats why they are back on the childrennapping

What would be the power they need to destroy?

Like we clearly know thats not the case with Loki given imu is handling him, and there is no shot Imu let those 2 goobers handle Nika after the Gorosei already failed. So whats are they referencing here? Something we dont know? Or am i just having a misunderstanding

Dont know, maybe someone can explain this to me

 

[Fujishiro]

My problem is that the" strength we need to destroy confuses" line confuses me.
Maybe its a language barrier issue, but it sounds to me like they're talking about themselves right? Given they talking about the exception on THEM

I read it as we meaning the WG.

So the power they need is the giant army. Thats why they are back on the childrennapping

And by extension Loki would fold is their reasoning maybe?

What would be the power they need to destroy?

Like I said Nika, it doesnt make sense for anything else.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

My problem is that the" strength we need to destroy confuses" line confuses me.
Maybe its a language barrier issue, but it sounds to me like they're talking about themselves right? Given they talking about the exception on THEM

So the power they need is the giant army. Thats why they are back on the childrennapping

What would be the power they need to destroy?

Like we clearly know thats not the case with Loki given imu is handling him, and there is no shot Imu let those 2 goobers handle Nika after the Gorosei already failed. So whats are they referencing here? Something we dont know? Or am i just having a misunderstanding

Dont know, maybe someone can explain this to me

I think they’re referring to Nika.
“The strength we need” is the Giant army led by Loki and that’s why Imu came in person and is fighting as he is. He’s trying to make Loki envy his strength as that envy is the first step to “domination”

“The strength we out to destroy” is Nika/Luffy. Nika is one of the greatest threats to them and their plans as such they’re in a great opportunity here in Elbaf.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

So Killingham doesn't actually say that Gunko is dead, but that it seems like it

 

[Sir Yasheen]

So Killingham doesn't actually say that Gunko is dead, but that it seems like it

Further pushes me to think that she’s not dead but elderly

 

[kekaro]

I read it as we meaning the WG.


And by extension Loki would fold is their reasoning maybe?


Like I said Nika, it doesnt make sense for anything else.

I think they’re referring to Nika.
“The strength we need” is the Giant army led by Loki and that’s why Imu came in person and is fighting as he is. He’s trying to make Loki envy his strength as that envy is the first step to “domination”

“The strength we out to destroy” is Nika/Luffy. Nika is one of the greatest threats to them and their plans as such they’re in a great opportunity here in Elbaf.

Yeah i can see those readings.
Reading it like that i would not count Loki tho as part of the one that must be destroyed necessarily:

We know for confirmed, given the traitor line, Imu has no hate boner against Nidhog fruit like against Nika.

The WG goal might then could be to kill Luffy, lock away the Nika fruit, kill Loki and feed his DF to one of the gorosei/Hk, "acquiring the power" no?

 

[Fujishiro]

Yeah i can see those readings.
Reading it like that i would not count Loki tho as part of the one that must be destroyed necessarily:

We know for confirmed, given the traitor line, Imu has no hate boner against Nidhog fruit like against Nika.

The WG goal might then could be to kill Luffy, lock away the Nika fruit, kill Loki and feed his DF to one of the gorosei/Hk, "acquiring the power" no?

Since Imu has no real hate towards Loki and been trying to recruit him the entire arc, I assume hes still hoping to but might change his mind soon and decide killing Loki is an easier way to get the fruit.

 

[Crow]

Isn't Killingham a fucking fishman?
How did his lowly ass become a CD anyway?

 

[Fujishiro]

Although how would they know where the fruit will respawn anyways lol.

 

[kekaro]

Although how would they know where the fruit will respawn anyways lol.

I mean, BB knows how and told his crew. That's why Burgess tried to kill Sabo and take his fruit, no? So reasonable to assume Imu knows as well, no?

Or am i remembering wrong?

 

[Crow]

Although how would they know where the fruit will respawn anyways lol.

Just leave an apple close by

 

[Fujishiro]

Just leave an apple close by

I doubt they came to Elbaph with random fruits on them.

 

[Fujishiro]

I mean, BB knows how and told his crew. That's why Burgess tried to kill Sabo and take his fruit, no? So reasonable to assume Imu knows as well, no?

Or am i remembering wrong?

You need to have a regular fruit with you next to the person that dies.

 

[kekaro]

You need to have a regular fruit with you next to the person that dies.

There are enough around we saw them during the feast, Super Sommers or someone to grab one and give to imu if needed, i dont think that would be an issue
I dont think Loki is dying tho

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Yeah i can see those readings.
Reading it like that i would not count Loki tho as part of the one that must be destroyed necessarily:

We know for confirmed, given the traitor line, Imu has no hate boner against Nidhog fruit like against Nika.

The WG goal might then could be to kill Luffy, lock away the Nika fruit, kill Loki and feed his DF to one of the gorosei/Hk, "acquiring the power" no?

Nah because Loki does two huge things:
1. Gives them control of Elbafs army
2. Gives them control of Nidhoggr at full strength

Killing Loki and just giving his fruit to someone accomplishes nothing