One Piece Chapter 965 Spoilers Discussion

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Isn't Mihawk just 4 years older than Shanks (Shanks 39 Mihawk 43)? At that time above YC seems hard imho....
Maybe; maybe not. These guys have reached a completely different realm of power in a couple of decades however the gap between a yonko commander and a yonko is usually so mastodonic it takes one single blow to declare a winner and the new gen is the only gen capable of achieving in months what is only possible to achieve in many years
 
ndule campaigning for mihawk in the popularity poll again. making him the center of attention where its not needed.
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GREATEST =/= STRONGEST

there is not a single proof that Roger is a good swordsman let alone great swordsman ....

swordsmanship have levels ... and greatest swordsman is the one BEST in THAT TERM
The title is sekai saikyo no kenshi
literally world strongest just like wb title or kaido's
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He uses it. But he does not rely on it.
The same way big Mom uses Napoleon, BUT she also uses her fist, she also uses Zeus attacks alone, she also uses Prometheous attacks alone. She does not rely on Napoleon as her major fighting style.

Roger is the same.

An example is Whitebeard. He uses his Bisanto weapon, but he relies more on his fists than his weapon. I hope it's clear. Roger uses it on some occasions during the fight, but his major fighting style is FISTS. Same as Katakuri, he uses Mole spear, BUT he uses fists a whole lot more.

However, someone like Fujitora for example, he is a DF user, however, most of his techniques, if not all, are being activated when he uses his sword. Even something as rediculous as bring a meteor down (which logically has nothing to do with his sword) HE STILL conveys the move through his sword. Thus making him a legitimate swordsman, and simply by default falls directly under Mihawk (NO QUESTION ABOUT IT). EVEN Oda called him "Blind swordsman"

It's like Oda telling you "he is a swordsman". but you guys say "NO he is not, you do not know your own Manga, let me write instead of you" hahaha

Point is, Roger's fighting style was not shown yet. If you can confirm it to me that he is like Fujitora or Zoro or even Oden who basically use swords for the entirety of the fight, then sure. But if he is just gonna use it for the first clash to give us some hype and split the sky, then he leaves it behind and goes with fists? or if he uses it only for one or two moves, or if he uses it only to give him more options against some special DF abilities who swords can be more affective than fists (like Rubber). Then No, he uses swords for specific situation and it's not his major fighting style, making him not someone to fall as swordsman

you can say that he has good or bad swordsmanship skills, but you cannot give him the title as "swordsman" like Mihawk, Zoro, Oden, Fujitora...etc
I agree with you until you said roger's main fighting style is his fist,
when we havent seen him fight
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yall need to just wait.
 
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Maybe; maybe not. These guys have reached a completely different realm of power in a couple of decades however the gap between a yonko commander and a yonko is usually so mastodonic it takes one single blow to declare a winner and the new gen is the only gen capable of achieving in months what is only possible to achieve in many years
Ye but Yonkos are things on their own they're either Natural born freaks of nature like BM and Kaido or they become one like Shanks if Yonkos are 0.1% of the top strongest pirates YCs are top 1% if Mihawk was like 15 at that time he was still too young.... probably didn't even had Your or if he had it the sword was bigger than him xD
 

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You can't win
Roger would have been 77 if alive
Garp is 78
Rayleigh is 78
Sengoku is 79
Whitebeard would have been 74 if alive

So basically Whitebeard was the youngest of his gen and unlike Roger and Garp, he isn't a D. Pure natural talent and hard work who rose to the top and ending up matching the pirate king and considered as strongest even while old and sick :steef:
 
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Roger would have been 77 if alive
Garp is 78
Rayleigh is 78
Sengoku is 79
Whitebeard would have been 74 if alive

So basically Whitebeard was the youngest of his gen and unlike Roger and Garp, he isn't a D. Pure natural talent and hard work who rose to the top and ending up matching the pirate king and considered as strongest even while old and sick :steef:
And he wasnt strongest man while sick lol the himself debunked that. Title doesn't mean a thing when you old or sick and past prime.

And WB wasnt the youngest of his gen lol that's BM
 
Luffy cares about his crew as a family, is the youngest of his generation, is not a savage like Roger and is an overall nice guy.

Luffy also did not have proffessional training like Zoro who was trained in the art of Swordsmanship, Workout Regimen and Haki( Breath of All things as child.

Luffy was not taught martial arts like Sanji.
All Garp did was through Luffy in the wild and tell him to survive.

Both Zoro and Sanji have a base ability, Swordsmanship and Martial Arts, Luffy has no base ability.

Luffy is the most similar to Oden/ Garp.
 
Roger would have been 77 if alive
Garp is 78
Rayleigh is 78
Sengoku is 79
Whitebeard would have been 74 if alive

So basically Whitebeard was the youngest of his gen and unlike Roger and Garp, he isn't a D. Pure natural talent and hard work who rose to the top and ending up matching the pirate king and considered as strongest even while old and sick :steef:
You mean eating the strongest paramecia fruit didn't help?
 
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:kriwhat: 5 elders
They surely are the 5 leaders of the 5 great ancient families

5 great families in Wano

5 underground families in West blue that Capone took down

5 original divisions WB made

5 seas : NEWS + New World

5 Great pirates : 4 Emperors + PK
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Big Mom is not in that Generation, She is too far away.
BM is from the same generation as WB Roger Shiki
Just that she became great pirate later coz she is younger. She was very powerful already back then
Oda has already stated it many times...

Kaido is in the same generation as Shanks and co
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You mean eating the strongest paramecia fruit didn't help?
He's a WB fanboy so he wont take in account that WB greatest force was His powerful df
 
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You mean like how Enel was a "god" ins Skypiea because of how isolated the country was from everything

Notice the similarity with wano the isolationist country also having a "god"...

Anyway, The reason why people want a Ryuma flashback and Oda doesn't just redraw monsters and print it as it is in one piece is because there will be changes... In fact there have already been changes with the very little that Ryuma has been stated to do in one piece already
Ryuma became world known because of his strength by beating everyone who came to the country to control it or take it's gold, including the world nobles or whoever they sent.
 
So Fugetsu clan ruled Kibi and Uzuki Clan ruled Udon or vice versa

Interesting how we have not heard a single thing about these other clans in the modern day

I mean the current story has explored even the lore of Wano and it's all tied to Kozuki and Shimotsuki.... These other clans must be somewhat minor players but I'm sure there has to be at least one representative in the modern day... This of course means we are getting more characters introduced even in Act three baby.... There's also the other members of Orochi's clan who must also be introduced as well when we come back to he current timeline
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Ryuma became world known because of his strength by beating everyone who came to the country to control it or take it's gold, including the world nobles or whoever they sent.
Right but the world is still VASTLY greater than Wano however impressive Wano is... Random ***** like Fujitora can just pop out of nowhere and then there's Elbaf which is supposedly the strongest country meaning it's likely theres some legendary giant who ate some legendary devil fruit somewhere in that country...
 
So wasn't here for a couple hours, did any other interesting discussion aside from Marco/Oden and Sengoku being a beast pop up?
admiral kitsune almost defeated roger but rayleigh had to help roger to defeat him
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ndule campaigning for mihawk in the popularity poll again. making him the center of attention where its not needed.
:cheers::finally:
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The title is sekai saikyo no kenshi
literally world strongest just like wb title or kaido's
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I agree with you until you said roger's main fighting style is his fist,
when we havent seen him fight
:kaidowhat:
yall need to just wait.
i think roger fights with his moustache
 
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