Spoiler One Piece Chapter 970 Spoilers Discussion

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Jo_Ndule

Now that i read the french version of the chapter(lucky me that i can speak/read french :optimistic: ), it's pretty clear the portrayal was around the fact that

- Kaido was fearing Wano's military's power
- Used the 5years timespan to reduce Oden's military power while increasing his own
- Oden only had his 11 scabbards vs Kaido's army
- The hostage tactic was part of Kaido's plan and Oden was even stronger than Kaido expected, with Oden almost beating Kaido if not for the hostage moment

The ending is predictable as well, with Oden managing to save the scabbards while boiling alone
Were did you see hostage plan was in Kaido plan?
Eh
 
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Jo_Ndule

Yes, yes I do.

Sorry, but being compared to Prime Roger and Primebeard in combat ability is more hype than anything Big Mom has going for her. Prime Oden was a mid top tier along with Big Mom, Kaido, Shanks, Mihawk, the Logia Trio and Prime Ray. There's not really any reason at this point to place Big Mom's AP above Oden.
Lol
Oden combat skills were not compared to WB and Roger.
Kaido is just saying Oden is the similar type of fighters as WB and roger , strong but kind/soft hearted.
 
King cant set that much fire , we dont even see ling setting fire but we saw Kaido blazing the forest.
King's name is the Wildfire which is defined as Fire that is hard to extinguish.

We've seen kaido's attacks and they don't burn for days. We've NEVER seen King's wildfire attacks so you can't start claiming he can't use them

Last chapter we got a hint of Queen's blindness virus and now we've gotten a hint of King's wildfire
 
Yes, yes I do.

Sorry, but being compared to Prime Roger and Primebeard in combat ability is more hype than anything Big Mom has going for her. Prime Oden was a mid top tier along with Big Mom, Kaido, Shanks, Mihawk, the Logia Trio and Prime Ray. There's not really any reason at this point to place Big Mom's AP above Oden.
Big mom attack power is : DF + Sword attack + mega super power + Haki

not sure how Oden have better attack power but let's say he have


so Big Mom can't damage Kaido after 2 days

but Oden can do in his first try


either Oden > > Big Mom

or base and dragon kaido are not same
 
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Jo_Ndule

"C'est vrai que Roger et Newgate étaient ces genres de pirates : puissants mais avec une tendresse.
... Tu es pareil... "

ODEN isn't type of fighters like BM kaido Shiki who are cold hearted powerful pirates
He is the kind powerful pirates as Roger and WB.

He didn't compare their combat skills or say Oden is strong as them or have similar power lol
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King's name is the Wildfire which is defined as Fire that is hard to extinguish.

We've seen kaido's attacks and they don't burn for days. We've NEVER seen King's wildfire attacks so you can't start claiming he can't use them

Last chapter we got a hint of Queen's blindness virus and now we've gotten a hint of King's wildfire
Oda would make it obvious.
The one who was shown setting much fire /blazing the place was Kaido

We only see King one place with his fires while fighting retainers
 
"C'est vrai que Roger et Newgate étaient ces genres de pirates : puissants mais avec une tendresse.
... Tu es pareil... "

ODEN isn't type of fighters like BM kaido Shiki who are cold hearted powerful pirates
He is the kind powerful pirates as Roger and WB.

He didn't compare their combat skills or say Oden is strong as them or have similar power lol
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Oda would make it obvious.
The one who was shown setting much fire /blazing the place was Kaido

We only see King one place with his fires while fighting retainers
in fact he just said " you're personality during fight" is like that
 
I'm very afraid for the battle os Onigashima after this chapter...
why then Kaido and Orochi will be taken by surprise now they are sure that no one would be able to arrive there and the communictation are cut so the traitor will not be able to notify them either , and more than that the alliance are gonna bigger than they think since i am pretty sure the grand fleet is gonna come and the 1000 people in the capital as well , so about 10000 will go to Onigashima
 
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Jo_Ndule

in fact he just said " you're personality during fight" is like that
I was quoting the french phrase

Kaido is just comparing Oden personality to Roger and wb not combat skills.

These guys would spin it around thinking Kaido was hyping Oden strength/combat skills to WB and Roger
 
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Jo_Ndule

When you were too naive during battle and got clubbed
This is the face you put.

The dude kindness was his weakness.
The old hag exploited it. Even tho Kaido didnt order that, I believe he was pleased to see Oden being naive as always at believing anything to be true.
 
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Homelander

why then Kaido and Orochi will be taken by surprise now they are sure that no one would be able to arrive there and the communictation are cut so the traitor will not be able to notify them either , and more than that the alliance are gonna bigger than they think since i am pretty sure the grand fleet is gonna come and the 1000 people in the capital as well , so about 10000 will go to Onigashima
With luffy around the surprise raid will never happen. Hell just cause chaos.
 
Now that i read the french version of the chapter(lucky me that i can speak/read french :optimistic: ), it's pretty clear the portrayal was around the fact that

- Kaido was fearing Wano's military's power
- Used the 5years timespan to reduce Oden's military power while increasing his own
- Oden only had his 11 scabbards vs Kaido's army
- The hostage tactic was part of Kaido's plan and Oden was even stronger than Kaido expected, with Oden almost beating Kaido if not for the hostage moment

The ending is predictable as well, with Oden managing to save the scabbards while boiling alone
hostage tactic was part of Kaido's plan? could u elaborate?
and I know the "Oden almost beating Kaido" is your own intrepertation of the panels. Kaido was down, Oden was about to attack him again. thats pretty much why u think he would've won.
 
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