Spoiler One Piece Chapter 971 Spoilers Discussion

[Tejas]

Chill Lolden is not above Admiral

Yes, he did better against prime WB than Akainu did against a dying WB.

An Admiral could fodderize entire pre TS supernovas

Kaido one shot G4 while the three AdmiraLs could not put down pre TS Luffy together in the war.

An Admiral made Luffy, Zoro, and his whole Grand Fleet ran away

After failing to put down G3 and panting.

Lolden faced Orochi and Kaido's unnamed subordinates and already got bruises

WB had those too fighting Marine fodder.

An Admiral got hit twice by sneak attack enraged Whitebeard, and came back only to face stronger enemies (Whitebeard commanders + Crocodile combined > old dying WB)

He fainted coughing and woke up only while WB died and still failed to scratch Marco, who Old Garp damaged with a single punch.

Lolden got hit once by a club and already got defeated.

The same club oneshot YC level G4 while AdmiraLs failed to oneshot YCs.

Lolden faced a boiling pot and supposed to die within 1 hour

Aokiji faced base Akainu then awakening magma the island changer and survived for 10 days

That is because Oden don't have Ice Logia.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

amazingly if oden was a mid top tier and 20 yrs ago kaido was around that level or better
then what level is kaido now in his prime lol.

 

[VersusPhD]

Newsflash: A dying WB was still a yonko leveled individual.

 

[Tejas]

amazingly if oden was a mid top tier and 20 yrs ago kaido was around that level or better
then what level is kaido now in his prime lol.

WSC level.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

on the other hand roger wb fought three days the exact same way to show they are equal
kaido's claim as a 1v1 legend is "people say"
as good as people say a king punch can beat a yonko.
he challenged all this greats and earned the title as invincible 20 yrs ago
yet oden cut through him casually while semimaru had him locked down. keep chatting.

You know why you are wanna use BM to downplay Kaudo?

Because your PL sucks
BM has always been Kaido counterpart, it was obvious she would match Kaido and only loses by a tin of hair.

Also Base Kaido is better than Dragon kaido in a fight
Dragon Kaido sucks 1 vs 1.

Your scaling about Oden also sucks.
He is admiral level whether you like it or not.

He clashed evenly with WB, tanked Roger haki named attack easily, clashed base Kaido and scarred Dragon Kaido (also tanked that fire attack)
He's a natural freak.
Him losing in 2 moves doesn't downplay him really since Akainu lost in 2 moves to dying WB.

The man made WB shook,
WB kaido have hyped this man strength yet you think he's not admiral level when seeing his feats and portrayal
Even Rayleigh has no feat and hype as Oden. Prime ray best hype and feat : none, called only a veteran member of Roger crew in these flashbacks * finish.

 

[Tejas]

Newsflash: A dying WB was still a yonko leveled individual.

Dying WB was only AdmiraL level. He, Crocodile and Marco said he was nowhere near his prime.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Newsflash: A dying WB was still a yonko leveled individual.

he wasn't
His Haki and body was awakened badly.
He was worse than the WB that clashed Oden even.

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Lolden scarred Kaido the invincible guy so he must be Mid Top Tier!!!

Yeah Queen also made Big Mom's head hurts (not in sarcastic way unlike Kizaru's "that hurts" post YC1 Marco kick) and arguably cracked her skull.
Same Big Mom who is also hyped to be never injured
Yep Queen the YC2 is High Top Tier!!!

Queen never could ever clash evenly with WB or Kaido.

BM head was hurting from having her memories back not the attack, she never gave a damn about the attack.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

You know why you are wanna use BM to downplay Kaudo?

Because your PL sucks
BM has always been Kaido counterpart, it was obvious she would match Kaido and only loses by a tin of hair.

Also Base Kaido is better than Dragon kaido in a fight
Dragon Kaido sucks 1 vs 1.

Your scaling about Oden also sucks.
He is admiral level whether you like it or not.

He clashed evenly with WB, tanked Roger haki named attack easily, clashed base Kaido and scarred Dragon Kaido (also tanked that fire attack)
He's a natural freak.
Him losing in 2 moves doesn't downplay him really since Akainu lost in 2 moves to dying WB.

The man made WB shook,
WB kaido have hyped this man strength yet you think he's not admiral level when seeing his feats and portrayal
Even Rayleigh has no feat and hype as Oden. Prime ray best hype and feat : none, called only a veteran member of Roger crew in these flashbacks * finish.

" Because your PL sucks"
bold coming from a dude who had to make two seperate accounts cause his opinions on powerscaling was overall considered trash.
big mom matched kaido .Am not using her to downplay him.it just again illustrates there's no real difference between top tiers that people keep constructing.

you have made some statements my dude. if kaido or big mom ever show adv haki
get ready to hold up your bet. your pl is so bad people started questioning your reading skills. sit down bloke.

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WSC level.

and wsc level is still lower than prime wb and roger
if you think the gap between a mid top tier and those guys is that big
you might be throwing "top tier" too loosely.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

1v1 champ against who?
not big mom at his "prime"
and not oden.
exactly why kaido is been ripped apart. these are things that made admirals detestable for decades. yonkos do the same, they are not getting away with a clean slate. get ready for more as the arc goes on. oden above admiral level is another headcanon of yours
at odens time two admiral level guys were garp and sengoku
he wasnt above either

Garp and Sengoku ~Akainu>admirals

You really thought using Garp or Sengoku will help your case.

Oden has done what Navy yonko failed to do, cut Kaido skin and leave a scar.

Sure, Admirals could make WB shook by just their mere presence as Oden (That was young oden; current Oden was said to be Much much stronger.)

But you thinking Oden isnt admiral (low/mid top tier) level.

 

[Valtiel]

kaido's claim as a 1v1 legend is "people say"
as good as people say a king punch can beat a yonko.

if his title was only a rumor, Oda would have made it clear by saying this in the box: "some people say"
"people say" refers to all people around the world. this is the general opinion in op world

 

[Buusatan94]

Jealous I’m not too sure, but once he learn about Linlin and her “interest” in food, he’ll definitely be scared....

I also don't expect BM to be really respectful of Orochi unlike Kaido and the Beast Pirates.

 

[ardym]

anyway i don't think that Oden had the most advanced armament (internal destruction), other wise he could have been to get rid of his cuffs. then i don't think that those are sea stones cuffs. since he didn't have a DF

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Garp and Sengoku ~Akainu>admirals

You really thought using Garp or Sengoku will help your case.

Oden has done what Navy yonko failed to do, cut Kaido skin and leave a scar.

Sure, Admirals could make WB shook by just their mere presence as Oden (That was young oden; current Oden was said to be Much much stronger.)

But you thinking Oden isnt admiral (low/mid top tier) level.

Nope
nothing suggest oden was admiral level.
he got swatted by roger . same dude who thought garp and sengoku would have given him a fight. both admirals

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anyway i don't think that Oden had the most advanced armament (internal destruction), other wise he could have been to get rid of his cuffs. then i don't think that those are sea stones cuffs. since he didn't have a DF

he didnt. roger flashback confirms he doesnt even have the second level.

 

[Topi Jerami]

Yes, he did better against prime WB than Akainu did against a dying WB.

Kaido one shot G4 while the three AdmiraLs could not put down pre TS Luffy together in the war.

After failing to put down G3 and panting.

WB had those too fighting Marine fodder.

He fainted coughing and woke up only while WB died and still failed to scratch Marco, who Old Garp damaged with a single punch.



The same club oneshot YC level G4 while AdmiraLs failed to oneshot YCs.

That is because Oden don't have Ice Logia.

How come blocking his bisento with hands in the pocket, inflicting a large hole and evaporating half of his face is worse than what Lolden did? Lolden just rushed and got blocked like a fodder

Kaido can't kill YC level Ashura for 20 years while it only took minutes if not seconds for Akainu to kill YC level Ace.

Didn't put down G3 but never got embarassed by Jinbe, Chopper, Nami, and Brook neither.

Yep, you're right. Meaning Yonkos have poor durability and can be taken out by King Punch, unlike the Admirals (there's a reason Elizabello only mentioned Yonkos without including Admirals and the reason is Elizabello is a honest guy)

My point still stands. Akainu came back only to face stronger enemies (WB commanders + Crocodile combined > dying WB) and ended up with taking out 1 of them.
Meanwhile WB after that, faced a weaker enemies than Akainu (same group who ran away after seeing Akainu alone) and ended up dying.

Same club that can't take down Meme for 3 days. Same Meme who almost dying by King within minutes if not seconds, and same Meme whose head got hurt after single attack from Queen.

Same way Lolden also can't hurt Kaido if he didn't own his swords.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

amazingly if oden was a mid top tier and 20 yrs ago kaido was around that level or better
then what level is kaido now in his prime lol.

Kaido ~ high/top top tier (yonko level)
Kaido then ~ low/mid top tier (admiral level)
Oden - low/mid top tier (admiral level)

It will always be : PK>=Yonko>~FA>=admirals>commanders/warlords
Some commander or VC and warlords are low tops or even admiral level.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

if his title was only a rumor, Oda would have made it clear by saying this in the box: "some people say"
"people say" refers to all people around the world. this is the general opinion in op world

That could be argued.

not sure how well you might pick semantics with a different language.

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no admiral is low top tier

 

[Topi Jerami]

" Because your PL sucks"
bold coming from a dude who had to make two seperate accounts cause his opinions on powerscaling was overall considered trash.

Lower your tone kid

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Kaido ~ high/top top tier (yonko level)
Kaido then ~ low/mid top tier (admiral level)
Oden - low/mid top tier (admiral level)

It will always be : PK>=Yonko>~FA>=admirals>commanders/warlords
Some commander or VC and warlords are low tops or even admiral level.

PK>=Yonko>~FA>=admirals>commanders/warlords
"PK>=Yonko>~FA>=admirals"
panel evidence for yonkos greater than an admiral . I see one admiral willing to encounter two.

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Lower your tone kid

nah he made the first dig
he didnt come at me with an argument so I fired back .

 

[Tejas]

PK>=Yonko>~FA>=admirals>commanders/warlords
"PK>=Yonko>~FA>=admirals"
panel evidence for yonkos greater than an admiral . I see one admiral willing to encounter two.

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nah he made the first dig
he didnt come at me with an argument so I fired back .

And the same Admiral could not strike fear into Pre TS SUpernova who willingly challenged them, while Post TS, their wills have been broken by a Yonko.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

" Because your PL sucks"
bold coming from a dude who had to make two seperate accounts cause his opinions on powerscaling was overall considered trash.
big mom matched kaido .Am not using her to downplay him.it just again illustrates there's no real difference between top tiers that people keep constructing.

you have made some statements my dude. if kaido or big mom ever show adv haki
get ready to hold up your bet. your pl is so bad people started questioning your reading skills. sit down bloke.

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and wsc level is still lower than prime wb and roger
if you think the gap between a mid top tier and those guys is that big
you might be throwing "top tier" too loosely.

Had to make two separated accounts because what? Lol
I never made two accounts for PL
I made my second account after deleting my old
This account was for me to just lurk and not really engage until the time I set to change my username.

You already knew my reasons for deleting my account.

But go on just to embarrass yourself

You PL sucks, my PL has never been trash like yours or others.

When you are done making up new and wrongs excuses why I made a new account ir wait "2 separate accounts"

Come talk lol