Chapter Discussion One Piece - Chapter 973: Kozuki Clan

[Rokayder]

The chapter implies the reason he's always sleepy is because he's up at night steeling money

So the question is. Did you guys still think Hiyori/Komurasaki sell her body? Or denjiro aka kyoshiro made Komurasaki a slut?
Or do you open your mind that this is not real life. Komurasaki just a dancer, just like Robin. And they just deceive the rich people for money.

From the start, it's obvious that kyoshiro is hiding something. And so this reveal that he is indeed denjiro.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

So the question is. Did you guys still think Hiyori/Komurasaki sell her body? Or denjiro aka kyoshiro made Komurasaki a slut?
Or do you open your mind that this is not real life. Komurasaki just a dancer, just like Robin. And they just deceive the rich people for money.

From the start, it's obvious that kyoshiro is hiding something. And so this reveal that he is indeed denjiro.

I thought it was obvious that Hiyori did not sleep with those people. Rather she made them all be under her feet and give her everything they got because they were tricked into believing that she will marry them once she has the amount of money that can buy her freedom.
Of course it was all a scam as we know... and it was also all done to people who deserved it as was shown... which means they were set up from the get go and were targeted.

 

[Rokayder]

I thought it was obvious that Hiyori did not sleep with those people. Rather she made them all be under her feet and give her everything they got because they were tricked into believing that she will marry them once she has the amount of money that can buy her freedom.
Of course it was all a scam as we know... and it was also all done to people who deserved it as was shown... which means they were set up from the get go and were targeted.

But you know, he and other people believe Hiyori already a slut. And they close the possibility of kyoshiro being denjiro because of that. That is why I quote him.

I and other said many Times that kyoshiro/denjiro just protected Hiyori. But they insist Hiyori sell her body, and so Kyoshiro make Hiyori a prostitute :rolleyes:

 

[Shura]

So the question is. Did you guys still think Hiyori/Komurasaki sell her body? Or denjiro aka kyoshiro made Komurasaki a slut?
Or do you open your mind that this is not real life. Komurasaki just a dancer, just like Robin. And they just deceive the rich people for money.

From the start, it's obvious that kyoshiro is hiding something. And so this reveal that he is indeed denjiro.

She is virgin.....she didn't sell anything....

 

[Rokayder]

She is virgin.....she didn't sell anything....

I know. I quote him because he insist said kyoshiro made Hiyori a prostitute and close the possibility of him being denjiro. But now it is all clear, he is denjiro and he just protected hiyori

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

But you know, he and other people believe Hiyori already a slut. And they close the possibility of kyoshiro being denjiro because of that. That is why I quote him.

I and other said many Times that kyoshiro/denjiro just protected Hiyori. But they insist Hiyori sell her body, and so Kyoshiro make Hiyori a prostitute :rolleyes:

Well, her position (her occupation) was similar to that of a prostitute. But she simply was "acting". And she have not slept with any of the customers.
Also, you can tell that by how she has been described as the "ideal woman that every man desires, the woman of dreams....etc" when she was introduced. So, what I mean is that if she was like other normal prostitutes who slept with sooo many men... I do not think people would be describing her like that.
I think it's because no one was able to make her sleep with them, she became this MYTH. You know how it is, where if many people can get you, your value decreases, and if no one is able to get you yet, it makes you more on demand! And Komorasaki was considered a "rarity" among women in Wano.

ORRR she's simply too good in bed LOL

 

[Topi Jerami]

Now if only Denjiro and Kawamatsu actually trained Hiyori into monster swordwoman, dual wielding Enma and Momo's sword. She has the genetic too, being the daughter of Oden.

That would make her into perfect next nakama candidate. A tomboyish girl turns into dual wielding swordswoman.
Role: swordwoman / dancer
Dream: open the border of Wank and finishing whatever Toki supposed to do
Tragic past: Losing both of her parents

But Oda being Lolda turned her into another damsel. And we have shitty Carrot and shitty Momo leading the competition for now.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Now if only Denjiro and Kawamatsu actually trained Hiyori into monster swordwoman, dual wielding Enma and Momo's sword. She has the genetic too, being the daughter of Oden.

That would make her into perfect next nakama candidate. A tomboyish girl turns into dual wielding swordswoman.
Role: swordwoman / dancer
Dream: open the border of Wank and finishing whatever Toki supposed to do
Tragic past: Losing both of her parents

But Oda being Lolda turned her into another damsel. And we have shitty Carrot and shitty Momo leading the competition for now.

LOL, inb4 she was able to fuck up Killer/Kamazou, but she prefered to stay in the act of damsel in distress!

I'm open to the idea that Kyoshiro trained her, BUT NOT Kawamatsu, because we saw how it went down with Kawamatsu!

however, with Kyoshiro, we do not completely know how things went between them! In fact, we still do not know if the scene of Kyoshiro cutting Komorasaki and hr still being alive is ONLY a testament to Kyoshiro's swordsmanship skills? or did Hiyori have some kind of training and skills to be able to pull it off as well in addition to Kyoshiro's skills!?

Cause Kyoshiro was like: "Are you prepared?"
They pulled a move, how? who knows!

 

[Topi Jerami]

LOL, inb4 she was able to fuck up Killer/Kamazou, but she prefered to stay in the act of damsel in distress!

That would be nice but the situation portrayed otherwise. Hiyori was running like a damsel, bringing another damsel Otoko, being chased by assassin and we saw some blood already which most likely was from Hiyori's wound.

I'm open to the idea that Kyoshiro trained her, BUT NOT Kawamatsu, because we saw how it went down with Kawamatsu!

Imo actually Kawamatsu had bigger chance to train her because with Kawamatsu they didn't act. Kawamatsu could train her like how toy soldier Kyros trained Rebecca (not happening though).

While with Denjiro both have to act in front of everyone else. If Orochi or any other men saw Denjiro is training her, they would be suspicious and thinking why the yakuza boss, Orochi's bodyguard is training the courtesan.

however, with Kyoshiro, we do not completely know how things went between them! In fact, we still do not know if the scene of Kyoshiro cutting Komorasaki and hr still being alive is ONLY a testament to Kyoshiro's swordsmanship skills? or did Hiyori have some kind of training and skills to be able to pull it off as well in addition to Kyoshiro's skills!?

It's nothing complicated. They used tomato sauce to fool everyone and considering how dumb Wano residents are, they believe it.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

That would be nice but the situation portrayed otherwise. Hiyori was running like a damsel, bringing another damsel Otoko, being chased by assassin and we saw some blood already which most likely was from Hiyori's wound.


Imo actually Kawamatsu had bigger chance to train her because with Kawamatsu they didn't act. Kawamatsu could train her like how toy soldier Kyros trained Rebecca (not happening though).

While with Denjiro both have to act in front of everyone else. If Orochi or any other men saw Denjiro is training her, they would be suspicious and thinking why the yakuza boss, Orochi's bodyguard is training the courtesan.


It's nothing complicated. They used tomato sauce to fool everyone and considering how dumb Wano residents are, they believe it.

LOL, so it's really as easily as Usopp's trick? LOL nice

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

So the question is. Did you guys still think Hiyori/Komurasaki sell her body? Or denjiro aka kyoshiro made Komurasaki a slut?
Or do you open your mind that this is not real life. Komurasaki just a dancer, just like Robin. And they just deceive the rich people for money.

From the start, it's obvious that kyoshiro is hiding something. And so this reveal that he is indeed denjiro.

Well there no way Oda would say Oden's man made odens daughter sleep with people... But as it stands, Komurasaki's position as Oiran does require her to sleep with people... Oda is just saying they maneuvered around this somehow

 

[Worst]

 

[Cyrus the Cactus]

I thought it was obvious that Hiyori did not sleep with those people. Rather she made them all be under her feet and give her everything they got because they were tricked into believing that she will marry them once she has the amount of money that can buy her freedom.
Of course it was all a scam as we know... and it was also all done to people who deserved it as was shown... which means they were set up from the get go and were targeted.

Well there no way Oda would say Oden's man made odens daughter sleep with people... But as it stands, Komurasaki's position as Oiran does require her to sleep with people... Oda is just saying they maneuvered around this somehow

Well, the other geisha are the banquet talk about how Komurasaki has a bad reputation in their circle. Could be because of her scamming simps into ruin without actually doing anything for them.

Not really that complicated.

Plus the way she was beaming when she asked Zoro if she enjoyed sleeping with her made it seem like she was kinda sheltered in that regard lol. If she got around, why would she ask Zoro if she enjoyed just sleeping next to her?

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Well, the other geisha are the banquet talk about how Komurasaki has a bad reputation in their circle. Could be because of her scamming simps into ruin without actually doing anything for them.

Not really that complicated.

Plus the way she was beaming when she asked Zoro if she enjoyed sleeping with her made it seem like she was kinda sheltered in that regard lol. If she got around, why would she ask Zoro if she enjoyed just sleeping next to her?

She's not experinced in bed LOL, that's why she asks Zoro LOL

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

why would she ask Zoro if she enjoyed just sleeping next to her?

She seemed like she was teasing him... She said "Did you enjoy lying with me? There are people in the capital who would die yo get this opportunity"

It's not like she was acting coy or shy about it, she was specifically trying to see whether Zoro was coy or shy about it

 

[Finalbeta]

The Grandmaster doesn't care about sex. Swordsmanship is way more exciting and mind blowing for him. :cheers:

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

The Grandmaster doesn't care about sex. Swordsmanship is way more exciting and mind blowing for him. :cheers:

Yeah... Zoro likes swords more, even swords as a metaphor

 

[Red Dog]

Okiku looks so badass with kinemon...told you she is the strongest scabbards...

 

[Jeremypippen]

So oda really made Kinemon use his sword while he was handcuffed? Isn’t Kinemon a df user? if that’s the case why didn’t oden break out of jail or break out in general? Oden’s not weak from the handcuffs because he’s not a df user? And one of the most shocking things is oden at one point despite being captured, was in possession of his swords enma and ame no hakabiri. But guess what oden did, he gave it to Toki to pass down to momo and Hiyori. Two swords that weren’t used for 20 years until now one belongs to zoro and the other never used. Smh bad writing on oda part how can Kinemon escape handcuffed with his swords. But oden can’t? This flashback was badly written when oden came back to wano. I want it to end already. Oden vs kaido was badly written and it’s one of the worst fights in one piece aside from oden giving kaido that scar. And that scar isn’t suppose to look how it looks just look at it in kaidos dragon df form. When he first got cut it was an x shaped zoro scar. How is it now a luffy scar or akainu type scar or being burnt scar? Smh once again bad writing by oda. Give us the present time and luffy and co. Oden has died why do we still see him on Roger ship with momo in the first pages of this chapte. Oden has a chance to escape and was in posssesion of both of his legendary swords yet he didn’t escape but hey that’s plot and bad writing for ya smh. Look at zoro handcuffed in enies lobby fighting back and mind he wasn’t just handcuffed he was handcuffed to usopp. And he was willing to cut his legs to break free of his handcuffs and fight. Unlike oden who asked kaido for another chance when he had the chance in front of his eyes when he was in possession of his swords while he was captured after taking an L smh.

 

[Worst]