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And Brownbeard talked about them after the TS. You’re strengthening my point.




Unless Oda just wanted to foreshadow their upcoming fight. Hawkins is calm and doesn’t get involved in pointless conflicts. Kid and Apoo are immature and hot headed.
what i'm saying is that different panels can be interpreted in different ways...
 
And that's supposed to justify how a supposedly low top tier level dude gets taken out in two-three shots by a Vet level character?

What happened to Luffy's Whitebeard level endurance?
There's no justification needed because no iron rule has been established about this. Don't let the craziness of those obsessed with power levels blind you; Oda probably doesn't care that much as he's writing a story and not a video game.
 
And Brownbeard talked about them after the TS. You’re strengthening my point.




Unless Oda just wanted to foreshadow their upcoming fight. Hawkins is calm and doesn’t get involved in pointless conflicts. Kid and Apoo are immature and hot headed.
Hawkins is the one who beat up Brownbeard so it makes sense that Brownbeard would mention him
 
And that's supposed to justify how a supposedly low top tier level dude gets taken out in two-three shots by a Vet level character?

What happened to Luffy's Whitebeard level endurance?
Apoo isn’t vet level. Most of the supernovas are low yc level at least. I’d expect apoo to be able to take snack out, and id bet that drake is already stronger than Jack, and Kidd and Zoro probably push any YC1 to extreme diff or better.

It doesn’t have to make sense, but the supernovas are portrayed as Luffy’s peers.

Luffy has grown a lot but none of them have stagnated either. Most of them would still be challenging for Luffy and Zoro to defeat, especially with the weird abilities most of them have.
 
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When he said that, he's talking about a 1vs1, do you really fucking think that he'll stay here while Luffy is down ? Sanjifan are very stupide :suresure:
Well, he's the one who boosted about "then they have to get cut" when he heard Luffy's reasoning for being angry!
Why would he run away with first obstacle? Does his words mean nothing? Have no weight?

By the way, I don't blame Zoro really
I blame Oda's writing... this is something would never happen pre-skip! Cause words, promises, oath, and when you say something, and start something you see through it! Things like that always had consistency in pre-skip

Post-timeskip, all characters say they will do somethinh, then they backtrack on the first obstacle they face!

We see that with Sanji saying he will reduce the enemies number against P1

We se that with Zoro telling Luffy he will rally Samurai for him

And here

And in other instancs as well

Pre-skip, words had WEIGHT! Now, they don't mean shit! Groundless, have no weight, the words of Zoro/Sanji/Luffy/Big mom/Kaido/etc mean as much as fodders words in the background
 
Apoo isn’t vet level. Most of the supernovas are low yc level at least. I’d expect apoo to be able to take snack out, and id bet that drake is already stronger than Jack, and Kidd and Zoro probably pushing any YC1 to extreme diff or better.

It doesn’t have to make sense, but the supernovas are portrayed as Luffy’s peers.

Luffy has grown a lot but none of them have stagnated either. Most of them would still be challenging for Luffy and Zoro to defeat, especially with the weird abilities most of them have.
Nope. Urouge got portrayed directly above Apoo when he took out Snack while Apoo failed to do anything in WCI. Apoo is Vet level.
 
Well, he's the one who boosted about "then they have to get cut" when he heard Luffy's reasoning for being angry!
Why would he run away with first obstacle? Does his words mean nothing? Have no weight?

By the way, I don't blame Zoro really
I blame Oda's writing... this is something would never happen pre-skip! Cause words, promises, oath, and when you say something, and start something you see through it! Things like that always had consistency in pre-skip

Post-timeskip, all characters say they will do somethinh, then they backtrack on the first obstacle they face!

We see that with Sanji saying he will reduce the enemies number against P1

We se that with Zoro telling Luffy he will rally Samurai for him

And here

And in other instancs as well

Pre-skip, words had WEIGHT! Now, they don't mean shit! Groundless, have no weight, the words of Zoro/Sanji/Luffy/Big mom/Kaido/etc mean as much as fodders words in the background
Maybe just maybe.... Oda playing 5D chess and he's doing this one purpose for storytelling, like sooner or later one of realizes they're bitching out to much. Or something.
 
What are the chances that Mihawk and Rayleigh will disown Zoro and Luffy after they read this chapter?
Rayleigh: stares with scary eye, carrying that wooden stick which he hit Luffy with

Mihawk: I don't remember training this insect, who are you again? You're embarrasing yourself

Note: I used different tone for each one, because Their characters and bond are like that... Rayleigh is harsh teacher but sweet to Luffy, Mihawk just disses anyone he sees Lol
 
By the way, Kaido's son appears to be adult at least, since he looks like it and he smokes cigarettes, doubt it's a small kid

Also, he wears horns, that means he might be supporting Kaido's cause and not against him
 
By the way, Kaido's son appears to be adult at least, since he looks like it and he smokes cigarettes, doubt it's a small kid

Also, he wears horns, that means he might be supporting Kaido's cause and not against him
Don't think that's Kaido's son, it's a number silhouette at the party

Oh! did we get a silhouette of him this chapter!?
Nah, just a Number
 
By the way, Kaido's son appears to be adult at least, since he looks like it and he smokes cigarettes, doubt it's a small kid

Also, he wears horns, that means he might be supporting Kaido's cause and not against him
Was the silhouette revealed?
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Don't think that's Kaido's son, it's a number silhouette at the party



Nah, just a Number
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