Chapter Discussion ONE PIECE CHAPTER 982: SCOUNDREL MEETS SCOUNDREL
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There are a few situations i got very interested in.
For sure, Luffy Meeting Ulti. I mean, they Play in different leagues and just meet each other at this strange Situation... i cant imagine a fight, but where does this lead? Do i smell some new alliance here.
The next Thing, the Person Marco is speaking too. I can imagine it being Izo, but why so hidden? We saw Izo in one Panel before. I guess it is someone else. My first Feeling was Dragon, but it doesnt make sense to appear here and now. So i guess someone else from whitebeards Crew?
The third Thing... Kaidos reaction to Momo. He is Looking at him, is obviously dissapointed of Momo Looking like that. But why? I mean, it is odens son, does Kaido have any Kind of Feeling for this Little kid? Does he remind him on Yamato? Do have Yamato and Momo any Kind of relation to each other? There must be something, cause Kaido seems to care About Momo at any Level.
For sure, Luffy Meeting Ulti. I mean, they Play in different leagues and just meet each other at this strange Situation... i cant imagine a fight, but where does this lead? Do i smell some new alliance here.
The next Thing, the Person Marco is speaking too. I can imagine it being Izo, but why so hidden? We saw Izo in one Panel before. I guess it is someone else. My first Feeling was Dragon, but it doesnt make sense to appear here and now. So i guess someone else from whitebeards Crew?
The third Thing... Kaidos reaction to Momo. He is Looking at him, is obviously dissapointed of Momo Looking like that. But why? I mean, it is odens son, does Kaido have any Kind of Feeling for this Little kid? Does he remind him on Yamato? Do have Yamato and Momo any Kind of relation to each other? There must be something, cause Kaido seems to care About Momo at any Level.
This chapter is further proof to me how it doesn't make any sense for the alliance to lose this battle, conveniently get out of Onigashima alive and have a second rewind of defeating the enemy.
The common hypothesis was that Kaido/Orochi would set up an execution by a couple days time, giving the alliance a chance to rally themselves, but as we've seen in this chapter Orochi has none of that.
Dude wants to have the rebels dead Immediately. Already setting up an execution for Momo, tied up with the fact that the Minks can only use their trump card tonight.
How will the Minks escape when they used Sulong and have completely worn out their bodies?
I want whatever happens to happen now. The writing of this arc would only get worse by delaying the inevitable which is the alliance's success.
The common hypothesis was that Kaido/Orochi would set up an execution by a couple days time, giving the alliance a chance to rally themselves, but as we've seen in this chapter Orochi has none of that.
Dude wants to have the rebels dead Immediately. Already setting up an execution for Momo, tied up with the fact that the Minks can only use their trump card tonight.
How will the Minks escape when they used Sulong and have completely worn out their bodies?
I want whatever happens to happen now. The writing of this arc would only get worse by delaying the inevitable which is the alliance's success.
They'll lose man and they'll be fkt really bad!
Apparently the info about the start of this big war is spreading through the new world, Marco heard about it so other big players head about it too, which means a lot of pirates looking for opportunities will come in Wano...how do you think Oda will make Marineford look cute? Hell bring to Wano the whole fking new world!
Apparently the info about the start of this big war is spreading through the new world, Marco heard about it so other big players head about it too, which means a lot of pirates looking for opportunities will come in Wano...how do you think Oda will make Marineford look cute? Hell bring to Wano the whole fking new world!
But how will the alliance succeed tho? I’m still iffy on that.
I mean the marines were considering this alliance a huge deal and even dubbed it the worst crew in history in the making. Even going so far as thinking about diverting forces there before being shutdown by akainu saying they don’t have the resources to do so at the moment. It just doesn’t sit well with me that a bunch of rookies and some samurai will do the job. Especially since the strongest one of them was mandhandled in a brutal fashion not a few days ago in a very casual way. Heck even this chapter kaido seemed so nonchalant, even knowing that the alliance is there he didn't give a fuck and kept drinking.
I mean the marines were considering this alliance a huge deal and even dubbed it the worst crew in history in the making. Even going so far as thinking about diverting forces there before being shutdown by akainu saying they don’t have the resources to do so at the moment. It just doesn’t sit well with me that a bunch of rookies and some samurai will do the job. Especially since the strongest one of them was mandhandled in a brutal fashion not a few days ago in a very casual way. Heck even this chapter kaido seemed so nonchalant, even knowing that the alliance is there he didn't give a fuck and kept drinking.
It is not the first time the enemy hardly underestimate Luffy. Now he is underestimating Luffy, Kid and Law, all together. Additionally he has no idea About the full force in Luffys back, the wano Samurai, Marco, the Minks and stuff. He Things, and thats it so far, there are coming 2 Pirate Crews of 2 guys he smashed easily and additionally 8 Samurai he was able to defeat easily back then. What should he worry About?
The enemy this time has every right to. You just basically said why he was so nonchalant. He negg diffed them all. It would make absolutely no sense for them to win simply because they have to.
In water seven, luffy made Lucci bleed and forced him into hybrid and lucci didn’t even one shot him he just threw him away and luffy was fully conscious. Every other fight luffy has he was stronger physically Than his enemies and was only having problem with their hax but once he could he beat them.
The kaido case is the only one where the man got completely overwhelmed to an extreme degree at his forte. Physical. And luffy went all out at that. Yet a very very casual drunk kaido swatted him like a fly. That’s my problem. If luffy put up any semblance of a fight this might be a lot easier to swallow.
In water seven, luffy made Lucci bleed and forced him into hybrid and lucci didn’t even one shot him he just threw him away and luffy was fully conscious. Every other fight luffy has he was stronger physically Than his enemies and was only having problem with their hax but once he could he beat them.
The kaido case is the only one where the man got completely overwhelmed to an extreme degree at his forte. Physical. And luffy went all out at that. Yet a very very casual drunk kaido swatted him like a fly. That’s my problem. If luffy put up any semblance of a fight this might be a lot easier to swallow.
Black Maria is Kaido’s thot, Or at least she’s trying to be
- Marco has a plan ? Interested to know what it’s gonna be..
Sasaki seems to quite friendly with Denjiro, holding him in some kind of respect then... Denjiro must be pretty strong, he only wanted to drink with Kaido and called Page One a weakling pretty much.
The tying of Sasaki was.... ugh very like Oda to such things...
Another Big Mom chase arc coming ?
We know Nami and the others are not on Big Mom level so the only things that can happen are :
- Big Mom recovers her memories somehow
- Another WCI-like chase
I swear if the latter happens I’ll have lose total hope in that fat bitch of a meme
Hope we won’t see her in Elbaf then
Page One and Ulti hahahhaha I wouldn’t be against them joining the crew
Seems more like Pay Pay and Ulti will combine their powers and get pummeled by Luffy
I bet Zoro Kid and Killer aren’t too far off
- Marco has a plan ? Interested to know what it’s gonna be..
Sasaki seems to quite friendly with Denjiro, holding him in some kind of respect then... Denjiro must be pretty strong, he only wanted to drink with Kaido and called Page One a weakling pretty much.
The tying of Sasaki was.... ugh very like Oda to such things...
Another Big Mom chase arc coming ?
We know Nami and the others are not on Big Mom level so the only things that can happen are :
- Big Mom recovers her memories somehow
- Another WCI-like chase
I swear if the latter happens I’ll have lose total hope in that fat bitch of a meme
Hope we won’t see her in Elbaf then
Page One and Ulti hahahhaha I wouldn’t be against them joining the crew
Seems more like Pay Pay and Ulti will combine their powers and get pummeled by Luffy
I bet Zoro Kid and Killer aren’t too far off
The difference is, you expect Luffy to beat Kaido in a one vs one. I cant imagine that too for now. I would expect a Tag-Team-Fight together with Kid against Kaido. He main solo fight against a Yonko will be Big Mum, after Wano. Thats how i imagine the going ups.
Also Kaido does make a huge mistake here. He neg diffed luffy for sure, but he did while Luffy was furious, out of concentration, unfocused and unprepared. Luffy didnt know with what Kind of force, what Kind of strength he has to deal with. But now he knows, now he is prepared, now hat trained explicit for Fighting Kaido. Something Kaido doesnt take into his countings. Again, why should he. He thought he is in Udon, was broken down. Yeah he escaped kinda, but how should he have trained? Kaido cant assume that too.
In a fight against Kaido, Luffy will be way more calmed, way more focused, concentrated and knowing how to fight him. He will be able to use his Haki, all 3 of them, he will take care of attacks, of dodging, of hitting specific Points. Something he absolutely didnt at the first "fight".
Also Kaido does make a huge mistake here. He neg diffed luffy for sure, but he did while Luffy was furious, out of concentration, unfocused and unprepared. Luffy didnt know with what Kind of force, what Kind of strength he has to deal with. But now he knows, now he is prepared, now hat trained explicit for Fighting Kaido. Something Kaido doesnt take into his countings. Again, why should he. He thought he is in Udon, was broken down. Yeah he escaped kinda, but how should he have trained? Kaido cant assume that too.
In a fight against Kaido, Luffy will be way more calmed, way more focused, concentrated and knowing how to fight him. He will be able to use his Haki, all 3 of them, he will take care of attacks, of dodging, of hitting specific Points. Something he absolutely didnt at the first "fight".
Kidd and luffy aren’t enough to take on kaido man, I think even the ah trio is iffy.
Here is a problem with what you said. You think that since luffy trained and didn’t use coo that that’s enough the bridge the massive gap in power but I don’t. Because at the end of the day, it was a very casual drunk kaido that did that to him. So sure he may have prepped a bit for casual kaido strikes and speed or whatnot but what about when he gets the least bit serious? We saw that his fight with big mom was litteraly shaking onigashima constantly. An island bigger than marineford .
I just don’t see how luffy training this new coa which I’m sure other top tiers have and yet kaido is still around, and using his fs would allow him to somehow 2vs1 kaido as you imply.
But we’ll see.
Here is a problem with what you said. You think that since luffy trained and didn’t use coo that that’s enough the bridge the massive gap in power but I don’t. Because at the end of the day, it was a very casual drunk kaido that did that to him. So sure he may have prepped a bit for casual kaido strikes and speed or whatnot but what about when he gets the least bit serious? We saw that his fight with big mom was litteraly shaking onigashima constantly. An island bigger than marineford .
I just don’t see how luffy training this new coa which I’m sure other top tiers have and yet kaido is still around, and using his fs would allow him to somehow 2vs1 kaido as you imply.
But we’ll see.
I really don't see the alliance losing, Drake has been missing for a few chapters now, he probably already knows Luffy, Kid, Zoro and Killer are in Onigashima. I believe there is a big marine force hidden somewhere outside of Wano with Drake's intel waiting for his call to strike and that's probably happening when the alliance is about to be obliterated by Kaido and Big Mom that's when Kizaru comes in and Big Mom goes to his encounter. I definitely don't the alliance is ready to beat both Kaido and Big Mom but I also don't see them losing here. There is also Apoo foreshadowing about Pirate Alliance's having bad endings.
Yea but this is not just some enemy Yonkos are end game material when Luffy landed on Wano he was sure freaking strong, a real monster compared to the pre TS but from what he is not to the Yonkos there is a huuuuuuge gap Luffy taking down not one but two without some outside help would be ridiculous (at least at this point in the story, we're sure close to the end than ever but still)
I've been meaning to make a thread about this for years. Oda very well knows that the fandom will chew and swallow anything he shoves into their mouth and ask for more. I've noticed this for a very long time but it's just been way too flagrant since the post time skip.
It's a way of masking subpar plot and writing by giving it the illusion that theres actual substance behind whats going on. It's the same reason he uses Silhouette even for characters that everyone will forget about after the arc. Holdem for cying out loud was a damn Silhouette.
3/10 Chapter. It would be a 1/10 if not for Ulti and Page One's interaction. Never really chipped in about next straw hat but I wouldn't mind it. You carrot supporters need to remember she's FUCKING 15!
It's a way of masking subpar plot and writing by giving it the illusion that theres actual substance behind whats going on. It's the same reason he uses Silhouette even for characters that everyone will forget about after the arc. Holdem for cying out loud was a damn Silhouette.
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3/10 Chapter. It would be a 1/10 if not for Ulti and Page One's interaction. Never really chipped in about next straw hat but I wouldn't mind it. You carrot supporters need to remember she's FUCKING 15!
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