Spoiler One Piece Chapter 989 Spoilers Discussion

Who is stronger?

  • King

    Votes: 106 41.2%
  • Katakuri

    Votes: 91 35.4%
  • Raid Suit Sanji

    Votes: 60 23.3%

  • Total voters
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Reminder that by the logic that people apply on Pica, you are a coward if you try techniques to avoid being hit in mma or boxing, who cares if getting punched in the face gives you concussion and makes you a retard, you should let your opponent punch you in the face because people on Mongolian yodeling message boards thinks it's cool
 
King's feats just weren't really great until now. We gonna see what he can do when he goes all out in hybrid, but Katakuri just seems stronger. FS alone combined with his speed and evasive skills are a tough one.
Why?
You have to provide valid reasoning?
Are you saying King can't accomplish what Kata accomplished aka fighting a new world rookie for 11 hours and still loosing?

Katakuri's best on panel piercing feats are on Hakiless Luffy right? When Haki Luffy got his body pierced by Hody Jones, you telling me Luffy is not gonna have massive hole in his body if King flew on him?

So if RS Sanji doesn't have a hole, it only shows Raid Suit is exceptionally durable, even in comparison to a very strong character like Luffy.

How in the midst of all this King not punching a hole in RS Sanji help katakuri?
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
We have no real way to compare RS Sanji with his siblings so it's not really accurate to say Kuri is looking better.
When Sanji outright states that the only reason he wasn’t injured is because of the Raid Suit, then that directly hypes Katakuri who pummeled a Raid Suit user off panel. This is probably the clearest comparison between two characters we’ve gotten in a while.

Sanji is bound to beat someone who holds a similar rank as Katakuri this arc.
Jumping the gun by an absolutely enormous margin aren’t we?

Lets put the Zoro-Sanji clusterfuck on the side, how does this chapter help Katakuri?
@Jo_Ndule @Admiral Lee Hung @comrade

I really wanna know your arguments
You know my argument lol. But like I said this doesn’t really prove anything definitive about Katakuri yet. I’d still rank him and King as about equals, but I can see the rationale for this making Katakuri look better.
 

Roronoa-sama

Magic Sword, Magic Swordsman, and Can Cut Anything
  1. Lucci was twice as strong as Kaku and had a significantly better Tekkai technique and would have been knocked out if not for lucky PIS.
  2. He was nerfed, but mainly in stamina and speed rather than AP.
  3. You are extrapolating some sort of Asura stacking onto an Ougi technique having a directly proportional effect, that is pure headcanon, might as well have Zoro stack ni gorilla onto all of his attacks to give him an AP boost too. Have him use shishi sonson with three swords while you are at it too, Zoro's techniques don't work like that.
  4. He powderised it in an instant, Elephant Gun was his strongest AoE move. Zoro was using haki on all of his techniques too, unless you think post-skip asura wouldn't use haki I don't know what yu even mean by this.
  5. Luffy used base CoA and Pica should be far weaker than Page One.
1. Yes Lucci was twice as strong as kaku in Tekkai technique but Kaku swordman
2. If his sword's going slower he can't uses his max power
3.Shishi sonson have less power and area than sanzen sekai
4.Pica doesn't have any damange while 1080 yes (zoro doesn't use haki with 1080 luffy yes)
5Luffy use haki see photo (in the anime too)
 
You know my argument lol. But like I said this doesn’t really prove anything definitive about Katakuri yet. I’d still rank him and King as about equals, but I can see the rationale for this making Katakuri look better.
Well that I can agree with.

Interesting though that King can just ignore Sanji and go after Luffy and Sanji can't do nothing about it?
Perhaps Sanji is knocked out but survived due to suit?
 
You have to provide valid reasoning?
Are you saying King can't accomplish what Kata accomplished aka fighting a new world rookie for 11 hours and still loosing?

Katakuri's best on panel piercing feats are on Hakiless Luffy right? When Haki Luffy got his body pierced by Hody Jones, you telling me Luffy is not gonna have massive hole in his body if King flew on him?

So if RS Sanji doesn't have a hole, it only shows Raid Suit is exceptionally durable, even in comparison to a very strong character like Luffy.

How in the midst of all this King not punching a hole in RS Sanji help katakuri?
FS is so ridiculously hax, Luffy who was at the time a fellow YC tier character couldn't even hit him at all until he learned it.
That is a mind boggling advantage over someone who is nearly your strength level, or who even surpasses it in G4.
 
Pica wouldn t be done lmao he s very tanky he even tanked zoro s 1080p and was fine without haki:gokulaugh: an attack that dwarfs that bazooka g3:josad:
that g3 attack wouldn t even scratch pica:suresure:
Pica ain't shit, Took one slash and he was out. lol You consider that tanky? Holy shit then what the fuck did two people above him have? Because they're much more tankier, THere's no fucking comparison.
Your just making yourself look bad by over exaggerating Pica's ability to take hits, over Downplaying Luffy. Good God get some help.
 
When Sanji outright states that the only reason he wasn’t injured is because of the Raid Suit, then that directly hypes Katakuri who pummeled a Raid Suit user off panel. This is probably the clearest comparison between two characters we’ve gotten in a while.
no it doesn’t sanji is different from his brothers it doesn’t hype katakuri

if it was niji instead of sanji then i agree that hypes katakuri but sanji’s durability before the rs was already comparable to the rs durability the raid suit

so no raid suit sanji and raid suit ichiji are not comparable so you can’t use it to hype katakuri
 
FS is so ridiculously hax, Luffy who was at the time a fellow YC tier character couldn't even hit him at all until he learned it.
That is a mind boggling advantage over someone who is nearly your strength level, or who even surpasses it in G4.
With FS and Advanced CoA, Luffy should be extremely close to Admiral levels after Wano Arc. It is a great advantage and a huge power-up
 
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