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It's ridiculous to state this dude isn't one of Oden's top men



You guys just don't want to accept the creeping reality that a dude that was fodder to Law/Doffy is schooling the Calamities.
There is also the 20 year time skip, if they were actually this strong, there is no way they xould have lost 20 years ago when kaidos crew was not as strong as it is now.
 
oden's top three are ashura , denjiro ( who fought kaido in the past btw )
and continued to grow stronger over 20 yrs while kinemon did not.
everyone willing to throw away what we have seen for 100s of chapters just cause the man makes kaido look like a fraud.
Yep Kin'emon may have possibly been one of Oden's strongest Scabbards once but 20 years skipped with far far less training and numerous fights have its consequences.
 
if anyone had told you kinemon would damage kaido in PH or dressrossa
you would be called a troll
the person we need to reevaluate is also kaido himself.
giving out yc level like candy now.
Yes, like I've said. Everyone in Dressrosa/Punk Hazard is MUCH stronger than originally thought.

Mate, Law said they had a 30% of beating Kaido... That was without Samurai help.

 
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