Spoiler One Piece Chapter 996 Spoilers Discussion
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Manga:
"Strongest criature alive"
"In a 1 vs 1, bet on Kaido"
"Island of the strongest"
"World's strongest pirate"
Flat-earthers of the forum:
"Mihawk > Kaido"
"Admiral = Kaido"
"Admiral > Kaido"
"Strongest criature alive"
"In a 1 vs 1, bet on Kaido"
"Island of the strongest"
"World's strongest pirate"
Flat-earthers of the forum:
"Mihawk > Kaido"
"Admiral = Kaido"
"Admiral > Kaido"
I even find these "trio" scalings weak as fuck if you think about it.
Chopper fought Kumadori, who was considered slightly stronger than Fukuro, who fought Franky. Sure, we can make claims that Franky is much stronger than Chopper now, but there really isn't a solidified claim to it because neither has fought enemies of similar strength again since Enies Lobby. Chpper was grouped with Usopp in Alabasta, but that fight was 90% using the enemies abilities against them. Nami fought Mr. 1s partner too, so I wouldn't even use Alabasta as a baseline outside of Zoro, Sanji and Luffy there. Enies Lobby is a much better one, and even there Usopp was fucked over
In reality:
- Usopp and Nami are the weakest. This has been mentioned by Oda, and also even openly regarded by both characters in their dialogue.
- Chopper is not really part of their group. The only instance of him being a part of the " scared trio" is because they were grouped together in Thriller Bark and Usopps one of hand comment about a weakling trio in some translations post timeskip Sabaody. I dont even think its a legit dialogue on Odas part.
- Franky/Robin/Brook are often grouped together, because they are what remains after separating Luffy/Zoro/Sanji/Jinbe who are clearly powerhouses. But I think Chopper SHOULD in fact be lumped here. I say this because within WCI and even Wano, chapter has been mostly with Brook, Robin/Brook or Carrot. He has mostly stood in his own (even if he gets the shit end of the stick often)
- This why I think that if Franky can handle Sasaki, Brook, Robin AND Chopper can all handle F6 members to varying degrees (Whos Who, Black Maria and Page 1 respectively imo)
So in reality, I'd group the strawhats like this. Parenthesis for those that aren't strawhats/still have potential to be:
- Luffy
- Zoro
- Sanji
- Jinbe
- (Yamato)
- Franky
- Robin
- Brook
- Chopper
-(Carrot)
- Usopp
- Nami
- (Vivi)
Chopper fought Kumadori, who was considered slightly stronger than Fukuro, who fought Franky. Sure, we can make claims that Franky is much stronger than Chopper now, but there really isn't a solidified claim to it because neither has fought enemies of similar strength again since Enies Lobby. Chpper was grouped with Usopp in Alabasta, but that fight was 90% using the enemies abilities against them. Nami fought Mr. 1s partner too, so I wouldn't even use Alabasta as a baseline outside of Zoro, Sanji and Luffy there. Enies Lobby is a much better one, and even there Usopp was fucked over
In reality:
- Usopp and Nami are the weakest. This has been mentioned by Oda, and also even openly regarded by both characters in their dialogue.
- Chopper is not really part of their group. The only instance of him being a part of the " scared trio" is because they were grouped together in Thriller Bark and Usopps one of hand comment about a weakling trio in some translations post timeskip Sabaody. I dont even think its a legit dialogue on Odas part.
- Franky/Robin/Brook are often grouped together, because they are what remains after separating Luffy/Zoro/Sanji/Jinbe who are clearly powerhouses. But I think Chopper SHOULD in fact be lumped here. I say this because within WCI and even Wano, chapter has been mostly with Brook, Robin/Brook or Carrot. He has mostly stood in his own (even if he gets the shit end of the stick often)
- This why I think that if Franky can handle Sasaki, Brook, Robin AND Chopper can all handle F6 members to varying degrees (Whos Who, Black Maria and Page 1 respectively imo)
So in reality, I'd group the strawhats like this. Parenthesis for those that aren't strawhats/still have potential to be:
- Luffy
- Zoro
- Sanji
- Jinbe
- (Yamato)
- Franky
- Robin
- Brook
- Chopper
-(Carrot)
- Usopp
- Nami
- (Vivi)
And you think Yonkos are equal in terms of strength? I'm talking about strength, not influence, and who has the most territories.
Whitebeard was the strongest Yonko before he died. If you deny that then you are delusional. Also, Big Mom and Kaido fought for two days if I'm correct without anyone losing. Does that mean they are equal? I don't think so. I think that Big Mom is slightly weaker than Kaido. That's why from a story and character point, I believe that Shanks is slightly stronger than Kaido. If Shanks fights Kaido, the fight would last for days but Shanks would be the last man standing.
BlackBeard> Shanks> Kaido> Big Mom.
Whitebeard was the strongest Yonko before he died. If you deny that then you are delusional. Also, Big Mom and Kaido fought for two days if I'm correct without anyone losing. Does that mean they are equal? I don't think so. I think that Big Mom is slightly weaker than Kaido. That's why from a story and character point, I believe that Shanks is slightly stronger than Kaido. If Shanks fights Kaido, the fight would last for days but Shanks would be the last man standing.
BlackBeard> Shanks> Kaido> Big Mom.
And? She was lying since the start because her brother was like an idol for her, the best! Why they would doubt it?
Why should people lie about Kaido? It's entirely different.
It means facts since Kaido has feats, context and portrayal to support it.
That was 20 years ago, when Kaido wasn't the strongest criature alive.
He has that title since WB's death.
Why should people lie about Kaido? It's entirely different.
It means facts since Kaido has feats, context and portrayal to support it.
That was 20 years ago, when Kaido wasn't the strongest criature alive.
He has that title since WB's death.
Let's wait for King's sword feats, so far his swan dive just blew a hole in a tower. You could fit thousands of those towers on Pica's body.
For Smoothie, her strongest on-screen attack is only about as tall as 56m Sunny:
Again, doing nothing to golem Pica
Cracker has shown even less than Smoothie in terms of DC, breaking only few trees. His 11 hour fight with Luffy did insignificant damage to the seducing woods, so I cannot see him ever breaking golem Pica.
Once again, the commanders are failing to show DC to beat Pica
For Smoothie, her strongest on-screen attack is only about as tall as 56m Sunny:
Again, doing nothing to golem Pica
Cracker has shown even less than Smoothie in terms of DC, breaking only few trees. His 11 hour fight with Luffy did insignificant damage to the seducing woods, so I cannot see him ever breaking golem Pica.
Once again, the commanders are failing to show DC to beat Pica
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