General & Others One Piece inconsistencies
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Well there are also some other ways to see the thing:
1-As some usually say it may have been to hype kaido at the beggining of the arc featwise after been have hyped verbally as wsc in chapter 795.
Tbh i don't really beleive this reason.
2-luffy was maybe not yet yc1 level and his fight with katakuri maynot reflect yc1 powerlevel as that fight was hugely PIS as many say.
3-luffy may have fought the weakest yc1 aka katakuri and gained his fs during the fight.But fs can only take you so far against top tiers(if you don't have the necessary firepower) and without advanced coa,you can't do shit to them.
Let's say king has a good version of barrier and penetration haki and luffy fought him and defeated him before wano,he would've stood a much better chance against kaido in kuri than what he displayed.
4-Maybe oda didn't know what he was doing and just decided to retcon his powerlevels after marineford(Probably the most stupid reason,but who knows).
1-As some usually say it may have been to hype kaido at the beggining of the arc featwise after been have hyped verbally as wsc in chapter 795.
Tbh i don't really beleive this reason.
2-luffy was maybe not yet yc1 level and his fight with katakuri maynot reflect yc1 powerlevel as that fight was hugely PIS as many say.
3-luffy may have fought the weakest yc1 aka katakuri and gained his fs during the fight.But fs can only take you so far against top tiers(if you don't have the necessary firepower) and without advanced coa,you can't do shit to them.
Let's say king has a good version of barrier and penetration haki and luffy fought him and defeated him before wano,he would've stood a much better chance against kaido in kuri than what he displayed.
4-Maybe oda didn't know what he was doing and just decided to retcon his powerlevels after marineford(Probably the most stupid reason,but who knows).
Just want to mention 2 thoughts about named inconsistences.
First about Jimbei: Is it stated that Jimbei choosed BM for it? Cant it be that BM just entered fishman Island after Whitebeards death and Jimbei made the offer?
Second about Robin: I wouldnt be that sure that Robin knew Sabo is the brother of Luffy. Also, it doesnt meant that Sabo asked to not tell him, it could have been Dragon who told Robin to not tell. I mean, just imagine what happens when Luffy gets to know Sabo is alive and with the revolutionaries? At first danger, he would head to them, wherever they are, Luffy would had just interrupted all what the revos are working for. Dragon seems to be a very rational man, so i can imagine this idea came from him.
First about Jimbei: Is it stated that Jimbei choosed BM for it? Cant it be that BM just entered fishman Island after Whitebeards death and Jimbei made the offer?
Second about Robin: I wouldnt be that sure that Robin knew Sabo is the brother of Luffy. Also, it doesnt meant that Sabo asked to not tell him, it could have been Dragon who told Robin to not tell. I mean, just imagine what happens when Luffy gets to know Sabo is alive and with the revolutionaries? At first danger, he would head to them, wherever they are, Luffy would had just interrupted all what the revos are working for. Dragon seems to be a very rational man, so i can imagine this idea came from him.
Not willing to debate on this right now. I don't really find it an inconsistency considering his situation is much more dire than both of those. It was a folly/flaw, but I don't really find it an inconsistency. It felt natural for him since he, like zoro, was willing to put things upon himself and risk his life in thriller bark w/ kuma. As much as they say to trust in the captain and in the crew, a lot of them can't help themselves but to do take things upon themselves like that. It's a flaw, but a good flaw and not something that would be inconsistent.
People escaping capture or death like the supernovas at Saobody (the fact that none of the supernovas were captured at Saobody, that the Hapoo Navy managed to escape Garp and his men, that none of the WBP commanders and allies were killed at MF outside of Ace or any of the Straw Hats' allies in most of the arcs) and that there were no civilian casualties during FMI, Punk Hazard or Dressrosa arcs is really jarring.
I find it a bit weird that that Oden never brought up anything about one piece during those five years he spent in Wano. Dude found a legendary island with Roger, but kept it all to himself? Why? Shouldn't he at least told his fellow samurai? Did he tell his wife? Did Kaido know about Oden's achievements? Or was there something that prevented Oden from talking about it? I wish Oda was a little more clear about that situation.
I also didn't care about how Oda handled Germa 66. I think he tried to redeem Sanji's family kinda, but it fell flat in the end. I wasn't sure if I was supposed to like or hate those guys by the time Cake Island finished up. It looks Sanji was the same way because he swore he would never be like them, but come Wano he was wearing their costume.
I also didn't care about how Oda handled Germa 66. I think he tried to redeem Sanji's family kinda, but it fell flat in the end. I wasn't sure if I was supposed to like or hate those guys by the time Cake Island finished up. It looks Sanji was the same way because he swore he would never be like them, but come Wano he was wearing their costume.
With regards to the Samurai, Kine'mon said that "Lord Oden made certain not to burden us with any secrets." I think this would imply Oden felt that anyone who knew the truth would be a target. Which makes sense. Also it's clear that the Roger Pirates as a whole have decided not to tell anyone what they discovered on Raftel- Roger with Whitebeard (and maybe Shanks) being the only exception. Probably ties in with the "we were too early, maybe you'll find a different answer thing."
He may have talked about it with Toki, but then, Toki already knows what happened. She's from the time of the Void Century, after all.
As for Kaido, he's someone who's motivations Oda really needs to start explaining. He does not seem to have cared about the Void Century prior to Oden's death. We know that he, twenty years later, is hunting Momo and the Red Scabbards because he believes that Oden told them the truth about it. So I'd say that it's either the case that:
-Oden's last words have sparked Kaido's interest in the secrets of the past. He immediately starts hunting the Scabbards to try and find out what they know.
-Kaido starts to become curious about the Void Century during the twenty year timeslip. He is convinced that Oden must have told the Scabbards what he knew before he died. Torturing Kawamatsu proved fruitless. When Momonosuke and co reappears (Kaido may or may not be aware that there was time travelling going on), he sets all his forces on finding them to get some answers
I think option one is most likely, or a mix of the two at least, but we'll see where Oda goes from here.
He may have talked about it with Toki, but then, Toki already knows what happened. She's from the time of the Void Century, after all.
As for Kaido, he's someone who's motivations Oda really needs to start explaining. He does not seem to have cared about the Void Century prior to Oden's death. We know that he, twenty years later, is hunting Momo and the Red Scabbards because he believes that Oden told them the truth about it. So I'd say that it's either the case that:
-Oden's last words have sparked Kaido's interest in the secrets of the past. He immediately starts hunting the Scabbards to try and find out what they know.
-Kaido starts to become curious about the Void Century during the twenty year timeslip. He is convinced that Oden must have told the Scabbards what he knew before he died. Torturing Kawamatsu proved fruitless. When Momonosuke and co reappears (Kaido may or may not be aware that there was time travelling going on), he sets all his forces on finding them to get some answers
I think option one is most likely, or a mix of the two at least, but we'll see where Oda goes from here.
This tbh he should have had strong enough haki I mean base luffy at the start of his journey knocked out a sea king
Not at all on topic I suppose but thanks for the genuine and civil response. I enjoyed your points and it makes a lot of sense with what you said
Well there are also some other ways to see the thing:
1-As some usually say it may have been to hype kaido at the beggining of the arc featwise after been have hyped verbally as wsc in chapter 795.
Tbh i don't really beleive this reason.
2-luffy was maybe not yet yc1 level and his fight with katakuri maynot reflect yc1 powerlevel as that fight was hugely PIS as many say.
3-luffy may have fought the weakest yc1 aka katakuri and gained his fs during the fight.But fs can only take you so far against top tiers(if you don't have the necessary firepower) and without advanced coa,you can't do shit to them.
Let's say king has a good version of barrier and penetration haki and luffy fought him and defeated him before wano,he would've stood a much better chance against kaido in kuri than what he displayed.
4-Maybe oda didn't know what he was doing and just decided to retcon his powerlevels after marineford(Probably the most stupid reason,but who knows).
1-As some usually say it may have been to hype kaido at the beggining of the arc featwise after been have hyped verbally as wsc in chapter 795.
Tbh i don't really beleive this reason.
2-luffy was maybe not yet yc1 level and his fight with katakuri maynot reflect yc1 powerlevel as that fight was hugely PIS as many say.
3-luffy may have fought the weakest yc1 aka katakuri and gained his fs during the fight.But fs can only take you so far against top tiers(if you don't have the necessary firepower) and without advanced coa,you can't do shit to them.
Let's say king has a good version of barrier and penetration haki and luffy fought him and defeated him before wano,he would've stood a much better chance against kaido in kuri than what he displayed.
4-Maybe oda didn't know what he was doing and just decided to retcon his powerlevels after marineford(Probably the most stupid reason,but who knows).
imo the first legendary inconsistency is Shanks' arm. If Shanks could avoid that due to his superior strength against the sea king, Oda should've just made him a rookie at that time, instead of a renowned pirate or one of the Emperor. Oda could've made him be able to get close in powerlevel of someone strong (like WSM WB's duelling rival or WSS Mihawk's duelling rival) a few years after he experience the loss of his arm. Like being WB's quickly-rising junior of some sort. That may be more believable plot-wise compared to the current situation.
@Red Admiral sigh bud you gonna tell him why that aint a plot inconsistency and the reason shanks let his arn get taken or shall i
which was still not logical imo, if you're strong and you put on a show that you're much weaker, as an act to show that the sea is dangerous, it feels too fake. It doesn't show the reality of the cruel sea, it's a drama caused by an acting. "I'm gonna purposedly get weaker to inspire Luffy, to get Luffy to think that my sacrifice is inspiring, while in reality i can kill this seaking with a sneeze". Feels fake to me.
