News ONE PIECE MAGAZINE VOL.11

[Red Admiral]

Not even Law’s novel? Was this actually stated in the magazine or by Oda somewhere?

the assumption is that no novel is canon until proven otherwise

Ace Novel was called canon by many source when it was out ...

no other novel got that approval ever since or before ...

I mean ... Novels are not horse shit ... and it should not have "TOO WRONG" info in them anyway ... but we can't consider their info as important ... I mean ... read Zoro novel if you like ... it's kinda a joke
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Chapter 0 is canon, the film is not.

this guy think Strong World was canon ... he is beyond getting help

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

the assumption is that no novel is canon until proven otherwise

Ace Novel was called canon by many source when it was out ...

I dont think the word “Canon” have ever been used to describe the Ace novel either.

As far as i can tell, the Ace novel is considered Canon and a big deal because it was the first one.

i think the types of statements used for Ace’s novel are “Learn the origin of Luffy’s brother” and stuff like that where its like they are marketing it as the actuak origins and stuff. And then Oda himself provided character designs for Ace’s crew.

Thats all well and good but has it actually been stated otherwise for anyone else? By this i mean if the People in charge of One piece outside of Oda have marketed the Ace novel as Ace’s origin, then isnt it automatically assumed Law’s novel just works the same way.

If the Ace novel is marketed as Ace’s origin for years then i gets republished in the One piece magazine and then it even gets a manga, then the next magazine says “This is the Law novel”, shouldnt we just assume the Law novel works the same way as the Ace novel?
Just by the mere fact that they both come out in the magazine?

Thats why i think there must be an explocit statement that these other novels arent canon. We dont need a statement to say “this novel is canon” since the Ace novel existing sort of implies everything is canon so we instead need a specific statement saying “This IS NOT CANON” instead

 

[Red Admiral]

I dont think the word “Canon” have ever been used to describe the Ace novel either.

As far as i can tell, the Ace novel is considered Canon and a big deal because it was the first one.

i think the types of statements used for Ace’s novel are “Learn the origin of Luffy’s brother” and stuff like that where its like they are marketing it as the actuak origins and stuff. And then Oda himself provided character designs for Ace’s crew.

Thats all well and good but has it actually been stated otherwise for anyone else? By this i mean if the People in charge of One piece outside of Oda have marketed the Ace novel as Ace’s origin, then isnt it automatically assumed Law’s novel just works the same way.

If the Ace novel is marketed as Ace’s origin for years then i gets republished in the One piece magazine and then it even gets a manga, then the next magazine says “This is the Law novel”, shouldnt we just assume the Law novel works the same way as the Ace novel?
Just by the mere fact that they both come out in the magazine?

Thats why i think there must be an explocit statement that these other novels arent canon. We dont need a statement to say “this novel is canon” since the Ace novel existing sort of implies everything is canon so we instead need a specific statement saying “This IS NOT CANON” instead

Ace novel is consider to be as canon .... meaning there is no bullshit information in the novel

but details of it might not be 100% real

Novels are not canon in general but Ace Novel seems far too legit to be ignored to be honest

 

[duckman]

Its not canon, because its impossible to fit in the canon manga. There are things Brook says during the fight with Duval that make it not work (it being his first fight ever with the crew). Not to mention Marineford was absolutely destroyed by Shiki like what, 1 week at most before the Paramount War?

Chapter 0 is canon, the film is not.

Nah B. They both are tied together. Either it's both canon and these are minor issues that happened because of practicality reasons (we don't want Brook to not be here), or neither are canon. You can't separate then and say it's canon till page 19 and then page 20 is non canon. That's not a natural reading of the story
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the assumption is that no novel is canon until proven otherwise

Ace Novel was called canon by many source when it was out ...

no other novel got that approval ever since or before ...

I mean ... Novels are not horse shit ... and it should not have "TOO WRONG" info in them anyway ... but we can't consider their info as important ... I mean ... read Zoro novel if you like ... it's kinda a joke
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this guy think Strong World was canon ... he is beyond getting help

You didn't counter my argument at all. Instead resorting to insults as is the usual in this forum.

 

[Extravlad]

Oda said " The enemy is the man known as the strongest creature in the world"

Move on lads nothing to see there.

Kaido's folklorish reputation ain't a fact.

 

[duckman]

Still want my account deleted but Bogard didn't respond. Maybe if I say cunt cunt cunt

 

[Red Admiral]

Nah B. They both are tied together. Either it's both canon and these are minor issues that happened because of practicality reasons (we don't want Brook to not be here), or neither are canon. You can't separate then and say it's canon till page 19 and then page 20 is non canon. That's not a natural reading of the story
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You didn't counter my argument at all. Instead resorting to insults as is the usual in this forum.

lol ... dude .... you think strong world should be CANON .... you have no argument

 

[Perun]

What happened to the guy with animal teeth and long hair?

Shame that he isn't present.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Ace novel is consider to be as canon .... meaning there is no bullshit information in the novel

but details of it might not be 100% real

Novels are not canon in general but Ace Novel seems far too legit to be ignored to be honest

Is there bullshit information in the other novels? Like is there stuff that directly contradicts the manga

 

[Hanzo hattori]

The GOAT crew!

Not really a big fan of Shanks" crewmembers but the guy with the bandana seems like the coolest one here

 

[duckman]

lol ... dude .... you think strong world should be CANON .... you have no argument

You: If Oda did it, it's canon.

Oda: I did strong world

You: It's ridiculous to even consider that canon because of a throwaway line by Brook two years before the movie was even made.

I'm happy to say that the manga, from vol 1 - vol 98 is canon and nothing outside it is. This means that we can't count Chapter 0m because Chapter 0 is Strong World. It's literally in the title. You need to explain to me what method of reading you used to conclude that page 1-19 of Chapter 0 are canon, but the title and ending are non-canon.

 

[Extravlad]

The Devil's Fruit forms of Mr.5 and Miss Valentine revealed.

Wow
How many freaking years has it been.

Mr5's DF is such a waste btw, fodder with a real cool power

 

[Nouryoku]

More from redon in Pirate-king.es.

Mr. 5's Bomu Bomu no Mi and Miss Valentine's Kilo Kilo no Mi.

Cool. It seems they intend to reveal the Baroque Works saga's fruits designs now (by revealing Smorker's and Alvida's they had already finished with the East Blue saga).

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Except Zoro and Ace novel
The rest aren't reasonable to use.

No Novel which is canon will debunk what sbs and Manga says

Ace novel is the only one that Oda invested himself really to oversee and approve

 

[duckman]

Except Zoro and Ace novel
The rest aren't reasonable to use.

No Novel which is canon will debunk what sbs and Manga says

Ace novel is the only one that Oda invested himself really to oversee and approve

Like I said Manga > Anime > Novel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whatever internet randos say they "consider" or they don't consider

 

[Finalbeta]

Only manga counts to be honest, until Oda will state differently.

 

[Kiwipom]

I love these drawings of Perona, Mihawk and Zoro. The three of them are a very fun trio to watch

More pictures from Novel Ace manga 2nd chapter, thanks again to redon from Pirate-king.es.

Spoiler

And these just looks insane. I’ll admit that I’m not a big fan of Boichi’s art sometimes but that Shanks panel is beautiful. Same with the Ace and Whitebeard one, I love the flames!

 

[Kuröwon]

From Sandman :

 

[Red Admiral]

From Sandman :

so Zoro want to be STRONGEST in HIS OWN STYLE

what a shocking news

 

[Lance_Dragonite]

More Ace novel manga chapter 2 pictures, thanks to redon from Pirate-king.es.