Biggest 2025 expectation?

  • Nami cutting her hair

    Votes: 16 13.7%
  • Shanks not having a twin

    Votes: 12 10.3%
  • Finding One Piece

    Votes: 3 2.6%
  • Imu face reveal

    Votes: 73 62.4%
  • Vegaskunk finally dying

    Votes: 13 11.1%

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    117
And Kuzan was stated to encapsulate lazy justice who doesn’t do anything more than told.

It’s literally about the higher ups deciding if you’re worthy for the title of FA which, Kizaru just isn’t. The fleet admiral is the most cog in machine role cause it just takes orders from the Gorosei the whole time as we’ve seen.

Kuzan and Sakazuki are awakened and Fleet Admiral candidates. Kizaru is not awakened and just an admiral comparable with Fuji and Ryo
It wasn't really about who was considered worthy or not
It's just that Kuzan was more kindhearted in sengoku's eyes so he chose hime
While Akainu ruthlessness was favoured by the gorosei
 
And Kuzan was stated to encapsulate lazy justice who doesn’t do anything more than told.
Kuzan's justice changed, he used to have "Burning Justice" and he changed because Akainu's genocide at Ohara, so of fucking course he would oppose the same guy getting to that position.


It’s literally about the higher ups deciding if you’re worthy for the title of FA which, Kizaru just isn’t. The fleet admiral is the most cog in machine role cause it just takes orders from the Gorosei the whole time as we’ve seen.
No it's not, had Kizaru wanted he would also oppose either of them, he just doesn't care.

Kuzan and Sakazuki are awakened and Fleet Admiral candidates. Kizaru is not awakened and just an admiral comparable with Fuji and Ryo

Kizaru is as capable and strong as Akainu and Kuzan, in fact Kizaru had the same epithet as Akainu when he joined the Navy:

 
It wasn't really about who was considered worthy or not
It's just that Kuzan was more kindhearted in sengoku's eyes so he chose hime
While Akainu ruthlessness was favoured by the gorosei
It’s because these two were strong enough for the title. That’s why Oda separated them from Kizaru.

Narratively Oda said these two were worthy to be fleet admiral. Oda could’ve easily added a line about Kizaru refusing the promotion, but instead were led to conclude he was never even asked. Which means Oda decided Kizaru wasn’t on their level.

The headcanon that Kizaru just didn’t want the promotion has literally 0 basis in manga
 
Kuzan's justice changed, he used to have "Burning Justice" and he changed because Akainu's genocide at Ohara, so of fucking course he would oppose the same guy getting to that position.




No it's not, had Kizaru wanted he would also oppose either of them, he just doesn't care.




Kizaru is as capable and strong as Akainu and Kuzan, in fact Kizaru had the same epithet as Akainu when he joined the Navy:

When did I say Kizaru wasn’t strong? He’s an admiral, they are incredibly strong. Kizaru wasn’t offered the position, there’s no reason to assume he just refused the position he was never offered.

Kizaru is clearly the Tsuru of the generation, powerful marine who was outgrown by the other two, the fleet admiral and the wild dog who follows their own justice.
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Not even close lmfao. We were never told Aokiji and Akainu were “worthy,” Aokiji was nominated by one guy while Akainu was favored by the entirety of the upper WG. Akainu still treats Kizaru like his peer and equal.
Because they’re friends? Fo you think Tsuru ~ Sengoku who have the same relationship?
 

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The headcanon that Kizaru just didn’t want the promotion has literally 0 basis in manga
Kuzan didn’t even want the promotion. The manga was clear that Akainu had 99% of the support. Literally Aokiji was only considered because Sengoku liked his philosophy on Justice. That has absolutely nothing to do with power level at all.

Because they’re friends? Fo you think Tsuru ~ Sengoku who have the same relationship?
Not once did Sengoku treat Tsuru like his equal in power. Kizaru shouted at Akainu and told him to come and fight and Akainu, notorious for being a huge hothead, completely backed down.
 
Kuzan didn’t even want the promotion. The manga was clear that Akainu had 99% of the support. Literally Aokiji was only considered because Sengoku liked his philosophy on Justice. That has absolutely nothing to do with power level at all.



Not once did Sengoku treat Tsuru like his equal in power. Kizaru shouted at Akainu and told him to come and fight and Akainu, notorious for being a huge hothead, completely backed down.
He literally does whenever the two are shown together?

And yeah backed down because that’s his friend… Kizaru is not Sakazukis level
 
When did I say Kizaru wasn’t strong? He’s an admiral, they are incredibly strong. Kizaru wasn’t offered the position, there’s no reason to assume he just refused the position he was never offered.

Kizaru is clearly the Tsuru of the generation, powerful marine who was outgrown by the other two, the fleet admiral and the wild dog who follows their own justice.
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Because they’re friends? Fo you think Tsuru ~ Sengoku who have the same relationship?
Why would they offer something to someone with no intention of taking on a leadership role? It's the same case with Mihawk, he wasn't interested in the position of Yonko, yet he could attain it if he wanted to.

Every Admiral possesses the abilities and power to attain the Fleet Admiral position. In fact, Sengoku being the FA while Prime Garp wasn’t suggests that the Fleet Admiral position doesn’t always revolve solely around power and individual strength.

And no way we are comparing Tsuru with Kizaru right now.
 
Kuzan didn’t even want the promotion. The manga was clear that Akainu had 99% of the support. Literally Aokiji was only considered because Sengoku liked his philosophy on Justice. That has absolutely nothing to do with power level at all.



Not once did Sengoku treat Tsuru like his equal in power. Kizaru shouted at Akainu and told him to come and fight and Akainu, notorious for being a huge hothead, completely backed down.
Don't bother with him. That guy is legit on a spectrum if he can't get something as simple as Akainu > Kizaru > Kuzan hierarchy.

I remember retarded debates with him about him claiming Auger brought food to Goofy and him not understand that it's impossible for Auger to do because he would be seen as soon as he teleports to Goofy, not to mention other reasons like Auger not knowing food machines and that Goofy needs food.
 
Kuzan didn’t even want the promotion. The manga was clear that Akainu had 99% of the support. Literally Aokiji was only considered because Sengoku liked his philosophy on Justice. That has absolutely nothing to do with power level at all.
This is actually right as Jimbei stated Aokiji isn't a man of action, had the FA being anyone besides Akainu and Kuzan wouldn't give a shit.
 
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