News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

[EmperorKinyagi]

This arc is one of the most plot armor ish arcs in One Piece.

Beast Pirates > Whitebeard Pirates.

Primebeard > Kaido.
Kaido > Healthy WB
Kaido > Old sick WB.

Sorry but that's the reality.

Marco doesn't even have good Haki amounts.

In normal cricumstances Jack and Queen could probably take on majority of WB commanders.

At least wait until we actually see Marco’s bounty, you could look like a fool in a few hours.

 

[Patryipe]

Is there any reason, Who's Who, Sasaki, Ulti, P1 should be > Ace?

WsW yes, given his past.

Thing is between his mask and his name clearly the government doesn't know he's that former CP9 agent, so no for him as well.

 

[sanjikun]

Is there a reason Snack and Peros should be>Ace?

Snack and Pero are not new arrivals. That's the point. They've been with BM for decades. WW/Sasaki just joined like Ace.

WsW yes, given his past.

Thing is between his mask and his name clearly the government doesn't know he's that former CP9 agent, so no for him as well.

Is being a CP9 agent > Roger's son?

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

@sanjikun I think Marco was to Blackbeard what Katakuri was to Luffy. The pre-emperor opponent.

 

[Formerly Seth]

At least wait until we actually see Marco’s bounty, you could look like a fool in a few hours.

His bounty doesn't matter to me.

He is not an amazing combatant.

He is just a tank/stalling unit.

 

[sanjikun]

@sanjikun I think Marco was to Blackbeard what Katakuri was to Luffy. The pre-emperor opponent.

I agree. But Luffy barely made it over the finish line. Blackbeard crushed Marco.

 

[stealthblack]

Was expecting Morley to have biggest bounty, he even is the one that build the tunels in impel doewn but he has the lowest bounty among all.

btw 2 admirals vs 4 guys with bounties between 600m and 100m. then again, the 5 supernovas have bounties between 470m and 200m yet fought 2 yonkous

 

[Midnight Delight]

Fujitora looks like a clown now

 

[MarineHQ]

@sanjikun I think Marco was to Blackbeard what Katakuri was to Luffy. The pre-emperor opponent.

With the small difference that after defeating Katakuri Luffy still wasn't accepted as a legit Yonkou candidate reinforced by him getting one shot by Kaido while BB became a full fledged Yonkou right after defeating Marco.

The difference couldn't be more striking.

 

[Patryipe]

Is being a CP9 agent > Roger's son?

Was that being factored in in Ace's bounty before the MF reveal?

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

I agree. But Luffy barely made it over the finish line. Blackbeard crushed Marco.

And that’s why Luffy has a 1.5 billion bounty while Blackbeard has 2.2 billion bounty.

 

[Jailer]

Snack and Pero are not new arrivals. That's the point. They've been with BM for decades. WW/Sasaki just joined like Ace.

Sure keep dreaming, Oda will not do almost a billion gap between Jack and F6

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Was expecting Morley to have biggest bounty, he even is the one that build the tunels in impel doewn but he has the lowest bounty among all.

btw 2 admirals vs 4 guys with bounties between 600m and 100m. then again, the 5 supernovas have bounties between 470m and 200m yet fought 2 yonkous

Reminder that Kizaru literally fought Izo and 3 other lower commanders offscreen.

 

[MarineHQ]

Fujitora looks like a clown now

I guess Kaido is a bitch because Killer injured him who has a lower bounty than Rev commanders

 

[Desolate Smaug]

Shanks crew is highest

Shanks crew could have lots of members with 1B+ plus bounties to justify the statement made during the bounties chapter. They don't have to be super high. If he has like 5 or 6 commanders in the in the billions that would be line well with "high average" statement

 

[sanjikun]

And that’s why Luffy has a 1.5 billion bounty while Blackbeard has 2.2 billion bounty.

No. It's because Blackbeard took over all of Whitebeard's territory. Luffy has 0 territory right now. He does not have a foothold in the New World.

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I guess Kaido is a bitch because Killer injured him who has a lower bounty than Rev commanders

Kaido wasn't put into bandages mate.

 

[Yasuda]

I kneel, Izo-sama.

 

[MarineHQ]

Kaido wasn't put into bandages mate.

Fujitora was 100% injured by Sabo who one shots Killer.

 

[God Buggy]

I guess Kaido is a bitch because Killer injured him who has a lower bounty than Rev commanders

Then what should we say about Mom who got her skull cracked by an hakiless attack from Queen in his zoan form? Lol

 

[Extravlad]

Kizaru gets wank for fighting Izo and three other WB commanders offscreen.

Fujitora takes an L for getting scuffed up by the revo commanders.

Admiral supporters will play up the WB pirates, admiral protesters will play down the revo commanders. This is just how this community works.

Except we already have evidence that it doesnt mean anything with Pero having a higher bounty than Sabo and Oda saying Yonko commanders have inflated bounties

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Kaido wasn't put into bandages mate.

Kaido has fought with no break stupid argument
He bled several times against the scabbards