News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Jack not only got KOed by Zunisha, he was utterly destroyed along with his ship and crew. Not dying is differently from not getting KOed. Jack's skin is not Kaido's skin. All these comparisons are a waste of time. You don't need Ryou to hurt Jack.

Luffy will beat the "strongest creature" which includes Zunisha.

It doesn't show him being knocked out, we just have him taking damage and falling into the sea, but then we have no idea how much time has passed, JACK was conscious in the SEA.

 

[JazzMazz]

Jack not only got KOed by Zunisha, he was utterly destroyed along with his ship and crew. Not dying is differently from not getting KOed. Jack's skin is not Kaido's skin. All these comparisons are a waste of time. You don't need Ryou to hurt Jack.

Luffy will beat the "strongest creature" which includes Zunisha.

Yeah, but the Luffy that is beating Kaido is definitely different from the Luffy that fought Doflamingo.

I'm not even totally against the idea that Dressrosa Luffy would be able to beat Jack, but I think its a bit much to say he wouldn't need gear 4th, especially considering that Jack is incredibly capable(wiping out an army of sulong minks isn't a small feat considering the regular minks were enough to give trouble to Luffy and Zoro before, and two of them nearly defeated Perospero).

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Yeah, but the Luffy that is beating Kaido is definitely different from the Luffy that fought Doflamingo.

I'm not even totally against the idea that Dressrosa Luffy would be able to beat Jack, but I think its a bit much to say he wouldn't need gear 4th, especially considering that Jack is incredibly capable(wiping out an army of sulong minks isn't a small feat considering the regular minks were enough to give trouble to Luffy and Zoro before, and two of them nearly defeated Perospero).

Just because of DUKE INUARASHI's appearance, Luffy classified him as very difficult / tough, after beating DOFLAMINGO
Lol, doesn't even look like the man who was sending the flamingo flying thousands of meters in DR, making a low DIFF, in G4 form.
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So even for Luffy after defeating Doffy the INU is extremely difficult/tough.

 

[sanjikun]

Dude is losing to crippled, 1 legged base Inuarashi and these guys are going on and on about him beating imaginary armies of minks.

Inuarashi in that state is no stronger than Kinemon, who Luffy could own FI, PH, Dressrosa, or any arc. Kinemon matched Sulong Inu's Oden Nitoryu.

It doesn't show him being knocked out

You're delusional mate.

 

[Tejas]

Cracker beats Jack.Next.

Jack eats Cracker for breakfast but both can beat Doffy easily.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Dude is losing to crippled, 1 legged base Inuarashi and these guys are going on and on about him beating imaginary armies of minks.

Inuarashi in that state is no stronger than Kinemon, who Luffy could own FI, PH, Dressrosa, or any arc. Kinemon matched Sulong Inu's Oden Nitoryu.



You're delusional mate.

Is it because he had no more place to step?
He was flung away and fell into the sea.
And he fell into the sea, but we're not sure if he was knocked out.
When he appears he is conscious.

 

[Tejas]

Dude is losing to crippled, 1 legged base Inuarashi and these guys are going on and on about him beating imaginary armies of minks.

Inuarashi in that state is no stronger than Kinemon, who Luffy could own FI, PH, Dressrosa, or any arc. Kinemon matched Sulong Inu's Oden Nitoryu.



You're delusional mate.

He was conscious the next panel he was shown that too Under the sea which weakens DF users unlike Doffy who was unconscious for hours after King Kong gun which is a small fraction of Zunisha swing

 

[Ichiro Miyata]

Jack eats Cracker for breakfast but both can beat Doffy easily.

Lol.Jack can't pass biscuit soldiers even his dream.Doffy murder Jack too.

 

[Tejas]

Lol.Jack can't pass biscuit soldiers even his dream.Doffy murder Jack too.

Jack gives Doffy, the Sheepshead treatment. And the biscuits break easily by Jack. Jack's Trunk swing alone can destroy buildings.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

I need to see Jack’s hybrid before I can answer this.

But as of right now Doffy should demolish him thanks to the match up.

A big slow tank like Jack with no hax is literally the perfect opponent for Doffy. Isn’t nearly as fast as Gear 4 or Jozu, and Doffy could catch Jozu.

 

[JazzMazz]

Just because of DUKE INUARASHI's appearance, Luffy classified him as very difficult / tough, after beating DOFLAMINGO
Lol, doesn't even look like the man who was sending the flamingo flying thousands of meters in DR, making a low DIFF, in G4 form.
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So even for Luffy after defeating Doffy the INU is extremely difficult/tough.

Yeah, I agree with that. Luffy also called Cracker similarly strong(I presume this is Luffy judging strentch based on observation haki).

 

[Ichiro Miyata]

Jack gives Doffy, the Sheepshead treatment. And the biscuits break easily by Jack. Jack's Trunk swing alone can destroy buildings.

LOL.Jack's trunk swing easily stopped even by Inu.Doffy and Cracker murder this punching bag.

 

[zzShinichi]

Came for the Vivre cards infos, stay for the "Doffy vs Jack" debate

 

[Tejas]

LOL.Jack's trunk swing easily stopped even by Inu.Doffy and Cracker murder this punching bag.

Doffy could not even murder Abdullah and Jeet, who destroyed his clone easily. Jack just needs to stay in base and it's game over for Doffy.

 

[Zolo]

Doffy could not even murder Abdullah and Jeet, who destroyed his clone easily. Jack just needs to stay in base and it's game over for Doffy.

LOL. Jack is biggest looser in OP just admit it.... Doffy mid diff the dude

 

[Finalbeta]

LOL. Jack is biggest looser in OP just admit it.... Doffy mid diff the dude

That might be the case. Mid diff I mean.

 

[Tejas]

LOL. Jack is biggest looser in OP just admit it.... Doffy mid diff the dude

Jack tries to win even in impossible situations unlike the weakling Doffy who runs away at the slightest hint of danger.
King
Queen
Jack
Joker

For a reason

 

[Ichiro Miyata]

Doffy could not even murder Abdullah and Jeet, who destroyed his clone easily. Jack just needs to stay in base and it's game over for Doffy.

Doffy murder Law who is above Jack lol.Doffy just need to use awakening and game over for Jack.

 

[Tejas]

Doffy murder Law who is above Jack lol.Doffy just need to use awakening and game over for Jack.

Doffy Awakening could not even damage Boundman seriously. Boundman lost to every YC3, he faced.

Also Kaido: Joker, you are a weakLing.
Also Kaido: Jack, you are not weak.

 

[Ichiro Miyata]

Doffy Awakening could not even damage Boundman seriously. Boundman lost to every YC3, he faced.

Also Kaido: Joker, you are a weakLing.
Also Kaido: Jack, you are not weak.

Boundman>Cracker>Jack.Jack couldn't even beat Inu and Neko.Doffy, on the other hand, defeated law who is easily above scabbars without awakening.The reason Kaido called Dof is weak because he underestimated the Novas.He already mentioned that they were monsters at the roof fight.Sorry but Doffy>Jack the dragdawn.