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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Crazy and out my ass but what if black blades are forged through a sacrifice. Like something crazy like killing a loved one or suicide. It being similar to zoan awakenings requiring death but still unique


We know Aramaki’s tattoo hints at suicide and death of a loved one. So maybe the sword originally belonged to a girl he really loved whether familial or romantic. Her death being what made the blade black with Aramaki deciding to hold it as a part of her. He can probably use it too but only when pushed to

Mihawk back in his youth definitely went through some big loss with it being tied to the betrayal he felt. Maybe after that lost he learned how black blades are permanently made and decided to try and achieve it. If he wasn’t strong enough he’d just kill himself but if he was he’d be able to overcome death and become one with yoru. If he didn’t try to kill himself what if the person that betrayed him used his own sword and literally stabbed him in the back leaving him to die. With the same effect either way. That maybe explaining his double ringed eyes because he and yoru are 1



There are a lot of ties between death and swords. Plus again the zoan comparison

This could also imply kuina is secretly alive sabo style since wado isn’t black. Which I wouldn’t mind tbh with her coming back as a man would be interesting imo


Ryuma potentially killing himself to make shusui black
It’d be mad funny if shusui did the same with zoro but he just didn’t realize because the blade is already black. Like if the scar on his eye is him deadass accidentally stabbing himself in the face lol. Him dying but surviving and growing stronger in the process. The blade wanting to be a part of zoro like it was ryuma. So it’d be like even tho he gave the sword up to wano it’s still with him in a way
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Good theory. A sacrifice being required to blacken a blade would be awesome.
 
Yes, you are right, I double checked it. But that doesn't really disprove the point. We have weaker characters who have a higher title in terms of swordsmanship.
Well daikengo kengo doesnt matter
Mihawk s title is the strongest swordsman :sanmoji:
Zoro s stronger than these dai kengo
Swordsmanship is not only skill buddy you rat fans are desperate to make it only about it :endthis:
Mihawk is above all of them
 
Well daikengo kengo doesnt matter
Mihawk s title is the strongest swordsman :sanmoji:
Zoro s stronger than these dai kengo
Swordsmanship is not only skill buddy you rat fans are desperate to make it only about it :endthis:
Mihawk is above all of them
Zolo was called kengo from the start of the manga

You think east blue zolo is equal to Shanks?

So why they have same title?

Almost like shanks is not as skilled cause he lost his fucking main hand...

Thus making him a less skilled swordsman, but still with strong haki.

Almost like a... man who has strong haki. Wonder if we can find a word for it
 
Zolo was called kengo from the start of the manga

You think east blue zolo is equal to Shanks?

So why they have same title?

Almost like shanks is not as skilled cause he lost his fucking main hand...

Thus making him a less skilled swordsman, but still with strong haki.

Almost like a... man who has strong haki. Wonder if we can find a word for it
Yeah we can find a word for it called swordsman that uses haki to boost his swordsmaship oh wait zoro can do that to:kobeha:
 
What has king to do with shanks?
Is shanks some lunarian with anciend zoan df :kobeha::quest:
Brennew already confirmed shanks is a swordsman
King not being a swordsman means not everyone that uses a sword is one...


Shanks ain't confirmed anything

Brannew just said mohawk has greater sword skills than shanks. Of course he does. Shanks is missing his sword arm lol

Oda literally says "how does he actually fight" about shanks. He's obviously a hakiman kickboxer :endthis:
 
King not being a swordsman means not everyone that uses a sword is one...


Shanks ain't confirmed anything

Brannew just said mohawk has greater sword skills than shanks. Of course he does. Shanks is missing his sword arm lol

Oda literally says "how does he actually fight" about shanks. He's obviously a hakiman kickboxer :endthis:
Brannew compared 2 swordsmen
Buddy why would he compare mihawk and a non swordsman? That s like someone would say " messi has better fotball skills than lebron" are shanks fans that dumb?
Zoro,mihawk all mfs that use haki are hakimen
 
Why did zolo say king wasn't a swordsman? kingufy
They were obviously lying
When zoro said he wasn’t a swordsman and king agreed what they obviously ment to say was king was the greatest swordsmen zoro ever faced
When zoro said you can only damage him when his flame is off and king agreed what they obviously ment is only swordsmen with conquerors can hurt him ever

:smart::smart::smart:

Being a zoro Stan doesn’t mean you have to like his character just his epic feats. Anything that doesn’t help the agenda is non canon

:zosmug:
 
Brannew compared 2 swordsmen
Buddy why would he compare mihawk and a non swordsman?
Because they used to fight in the distant past. And thats the only hype mihawk has.

His other feats are, lets see... Getting stalled by vista. Postponing left and right. running from Fodder marines...

wow. Impressive list.


That s like someone would say " messi has better fotball skills than lebron" are shanks fans that dumb?
It's not like that at all.

It's like Shanks is Bron and Mohawk is KD. And then Bron loses his fucking hand. So he's not a good basketball player anymore, cause he doesn't have a fucking hand.

And if you compare KD to present Bron with 1 hand, it's pretty obvious who has more skills.

Zoro,mihawk all mfs that use haki are hakimen
There's levels to that shit. Shanks so far has THE biggest haki hype outside of the PK and Pirate jesus jorboy original. We literally had a chapter few weeks ago where giants weren't sure that the greatest of joyboy's haki was above shanks's lol

Hakiman baby :endthis:
 
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