News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

[Deleted member 83]

Take heights for example, characters like Kaido jump from being Linlin's height to 1.5x Luffy, obviously not a big deal but databook gives us an accurate height for them.

I personally love the height comparison section in these cards, the "this character is approximately xx Luffys!" is fun too

 

[stairs-kun]

Thanks for clarifying, also, would you agree with Artur's translation about Zoro being the second strongest SH member (pre timeskip VC) ? I heard the key word is "TSUGU" but it is an ongoing debate so I would like to hear your thoughts.

It says Zoro is next TO Luffy in Japanese text.

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Lool Is Patrice really on this site????

yes

 

[Admiral Mou Bu]

zoro hater

My fav Straw Hat after Jinbei and one of my top fav characters at Wano so far - personal mvp next to Killer. Funny that Zoro fanboys get hurt so much by logic that they try to push me into the "hater" section.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

nerf or not doesnt matter
dont think who is stronger between the two should be an argument
@Admiral Mou Bu

 

[imacub]

My fav Straw Hat after Jinbei and one of my top fav characters at Wano so far - personal mvp next to Killer. Funny that Zoro fanboys get hurt so much by logic that they try to push me into the "hater" section.

when you declare as an A and what you say about A is always some kind of bullshit, then of course it means you're a hypocrite, in other words, you're just a hater

 

[Admiral Mou Bu]

It says Zoro is next TO Luffy in Japanese text.

It says "after". Multiple native japenese people told me when I put the scan in my Insta story.

Luffy > Zoro was the clear narrative and dynamic position in the crew all along, whether pre or post ts. And I like Zoro and am a Luffy "hater" (if you want so, I just dont like him at all).

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

when you declare as an A and what you say about A is always some kind of bullshit, then of course it means you're a hypocrite, in other words, you're just a hater

he isnt
killer had more of a nerf but it doesnt matter
zoro's stronger
pointless argument .

 

[Admiral Mou Bu]

nerf or not doesnt matter
dont think who is stronger between the two should be an argument
@Admiral Mou Bu

No it shouldnt cause its arguable either way. They are portrayed as rivals and equals, we cant tell more. :cheers:

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

nerf or not doesnt matter
dont think who is stronger between the two should be an argument
@Admiral Mou Bu

Roof top gave the answer we don't need it ;
his captain is struggling to even give Zoro a mid diff with his current portrayal and feats let alone Killer kid stans excuses are wait wait wait

 

[stairs-kun]

It says "after". Multiple native japenese people told me when I put the scan in my Insta story.

Luffy > Zoro was the clear narrative and dynamic position in the crew all along, whether pre or post ts. And I like Zoro and am a Luffy "hater" (if you want so, I just dont like him at all).

I speak Japanese fool. it literally translates straight to "Next To", any other translation would be loose translation.

 

[imacub]

he isnt
killer had more of a nerf but it doesnt matter
zoro's stronger
pointless argument .

he is

Killer is portrayed to be equal to zoro? Bullshit

Drake is stronger than zoro? Bullshit

Zoro is only a YC 3? Bullshit

Kidd only thanked zoro because Kidd doesnt want to make his hands dirty? Bullshit

Zoro is weaker than Sulong Dukes? Bullshit

Killer is mentally and physically nerfed, and his nerf >> zoro's? Bullshit

i can add more to prove that @Admiral Mou Bu is just a zoro hater

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

No it shouldnt cause its arguable either way. They are portrayed as rivals and equals, we cant tell more. :cheers:

" we " no I can tell very clearly
lol pursue those delusions yourself
after the roof if you are still peddling this
you are on your own.


killer should focus on his 8% chance of success against hawkins.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

No it shouldnt cause its arguable either way. They are portrayed as rivals and equals, we cant tell more. :cheers:

Give us the rivalry where is it confirmed ? we have Oda's statement of Roger and WB being rivals also Mihawk and Shanks give me the statement or something to confirm this

 

[zzShinichi]

You got me

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I added that with CoC Zoro >. Before he cant control and intentionally make use of it, it is not really part of his strength.

Before Zoro COC? What puts Killer on equal potrayal to Zoro before that? Oh them panels of them being together?

 

[Admiral Mou Bu]

killer had more of a nerf but it doesnt matter

At least you accept the obvious. But I dont see how it doesent matter. Nerfed Zoro fighting equally against an even more nerfed Killer and then eventually beating him does not prove Zoro > Killer even the slighest.

zoro's stronger
pointless argument

Based on?

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Nevermind, I told myself to stop here. Had this discussion countless of times already and imo the most logical scaling is Killer = Zoro based on the Manga and every argument I saw.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

At least you accept the obvious. But I dont see how it doesent matter. Nerfed Zoro fighting equally against an even more nerfed Killer and then eventually beating him does not prove Zoro > Killer even the slighest.



Based on?

based on the roof matey
the second person to scar kaido ever.
based on coating his attacks in coc and having the potential to grow even further
based on the fact that the zoro we saw on the roof is even stronger than the one that fought killer
based on the fact that killer has not done anymore than a scabbard
ran into hawkins
and hawkins feels like the favorite
what exactly is not connecting for you

 

[Gari]

I speak Japanese fool. it literally translates straight to "Next To", any other translation would be loose translation.

Keep spittin goat

 

[Admiral Mou Bu]

Nevermind, I told myself to stop here. Had this discussion countless of times already and imo the most logical scaling is Killer = Zoro based on the Manga and every argument I saw.

Y'all can disagree or not. I realized long ago that debating with Zoro fanboys is like talking to a wall of ignorance and just a time waster. They just try to push their agenda instead to find the most logical conclusion. Its just annoying, not fun at all.

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based on the roof matey
the second person to scar kaido ever.
based on coating his attacks in coc and having the potential to grow even further
based on the fact that the zoro we saw on the roof is even stronger than the one that fought killer
based on the fact that killer has not done anymore than a scabbard
ran into hawkins
and hawkins feels like the favorite
what exactly is not connecting for you

Luffy rn >> Zoro controlled CoC > Kidd >= Zoro rn = Killer >= Law = Hawkins

the rooftop Supernova for me

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

he is

Killer is portrayed to be equal to zoro? Bullshit

Drake is stronger than zoro? Bullshit

Zoro is only a YC 3? Bullshit

Kidd only thanked zoro because Kidd doesnt want to make his hands dirty? Bullshit

Zoro is weaker than Sulong Dukes? Bullshit

Killer is mentally and physically nerfed, and his nerf >> zoro's? Bullshit

i can add more to prove that @Admiral Mou Bu is just a zoro hater

lmao drake stronger than zoro ?


lol ok
yeah am off this

drake is not even on candibois level if we are being real.

killer isnt mentally nerfed
just his blades . I dont read much of mou's post but he is an admiral fan so I wont do too much friendly fire

 

[imacub]

Y'all can disagree or not. I realized long ago that debating with Zoro fanboys is like talking to a wall of ignorance and just a time waster. They just try to push their agenda instead to find the most logical conclusion. Its just annoying, not fun at all.

Imagine saying this for the nth times already, and then come back later to just start a debate, then run again

what a hypocrite lmao

laeve any zoro's discussions for good to prove your commitment, dont be like an inconsistent kid

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lmao drake stronger than zoro ?


lol ok
yeah am off this

drake is not even on candibois level if we are being real.

killer isnt mentally nerfed
just his blades . I dont read much of mou's post but he is an admiral fan so I wont do too much friendly fire

he always ran from me then accuse me of being stubborn

Imagine saying this for the nth times already, and then come back later to just start a debate, then run again

what a hypocrite lmao

laeve and zoro's discussions for good to prove your commitment, dont be like an inconsistent kid