News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread
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Doffy was still stronger than Luffy. Luffy faced an extreme situation, and did not get a bloom. Losing a limb=/= the difficulty was less. It just means Kuzan suffered more. He could still make the fight difficult for Akainu. No one in the manga thinks the fight was anything less than a bare victory. Well, Ace barely won and didn't get a Haki bloom if you missed it. He had a lot of room to grow too, but he didn't. Again, winning doesn't warrant a haki blood. If it was said somewhere, please give us a link.
He is right about the fandom.
I'm not saying that this site is filled with the Einsteins and Newtons of OP powerscaling... but its far better than the average OPfan who believe in outdated takes like "Pacifista > preskip villains" or "Pica cleaves Magellan in half" or "Ulti one shots Kuma in Thriller Bark".
I'm not saying that this site is filled with the Einsteins and Newtons of OP powerscaling... but its far better than the average OPfan who believe in outdated takes like "Pacifista > preskip villains" or "Pica cleaves Magellan in half" or "Ulti one shots Kuma in Thriller Bark".
Just go search up any youtube poll involving Garp, Oldbeard and admirals.
Not everyone are clueless kids just because they hold a different opinion, you’re sounding like a narcissist lmfao
I can give you a better poll though:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/old-garp-vs-kuzan-clean-one-on-one.46316/
This doesn’t look like everybody thinks old gen are below any admiral or yonko 😂
Not everyone are clueless kids just because they hold a different opinion, you’re sounding like a narcissist lmfao
I can give you a better poll though:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/old-garp-vs-kuzan-clean-one-on-one.46316/
This doesn’t look like everybody thinks old gen are below any admiral or yonko 😂
No he wasn't. G4 and kkg was far better than anything doffy had. it's retarded to argue otherwise. goofy only loses because of the time limit. When goofy used his best shit, kkg, the fight ended. So he didn't need to bloom.
Kuzan didn't lose a limb at the start or even the middle and fight equally with Akainu lol. It's implied that losing the limb was at the end of the fight. ie, after Akainu powered up.
Nobody in the manga said shit about Akainu winning barely. All they've said is it was an extreme fight. Which it was. Doesn't mean Akainu can't bloom.
Ace didn't win decisively if you missed it. He was down literally seconds after jumbo. That's not equal to losing a limb at all.
It's not the winning that warrants the bloom. It's the fact that they were nigh equals, and one of them came out with less number of body parts than what they had. Meaning it was a decisive and clear end to the fight. Nobody doubts or questions Akainu winning at all.
If they were nigh equals, then akainu would have suffered the same amount of injuries. He didnt.
So either they weren't nigh equals at the start, which we know isn't true. Cause they were. Or, akainu got stronger. Bloom.
Kuzan didn't lose a limb at the start or even the middle and fight equally with Akainu lol. It's implied that losing the limb was at the end of the fight. ie, after Akainu powered up.
Nobody in the manga said shit about Akainu winning barely. All they've said is it was an extreme fight. Which it was. Doesn't mean Akainu can't bloom.
Ace didn't win decisively if you missed it. He was down literally seconds after jumbo. That's not equal to losing a limb at all.
It's not the winning that warrants the bloom. It's the fact that they were nigh equals, and one of them came out with less number of body parts than what they had. Meaning it was a decisive and clear end to the fight. Nobody doubts or questions Akainu winning at all.
If they were nigh equals, then akainu would have suffered the same amount of injuries. He didnt.
So either they weren't nigh equals at the start, which we know isn't true. Cause they were. Or, akainu got stronger. Bloom.
What now eh @Gol D. Roger?
Learn to admit when you’re wrong next time 👍
I don’t even know why you’re attacking about what I said regarding old gen wank reaching unhinged levels when there’s proof everywhere.
Learn to admit when you’re wrong next time 👍
I don’t even know why you’re attacking about what I said regarding old gen wank reaching unhinged levels when there’s proof everywhere.
No one said everyone is clueless, the vast majority of them can't write two lines without making an utter mistake that even the worst of the Worsgen is aware of. There's a reason why I said "the worst of us" in the earlier comment i.e., to say even people with the worst takes from WG are more informed than the kids that you're using as a reference. As I said, post me any poll, I'll show you how well informed they are. And I did not say that we don't have people with bad takes, even when they have bad takes, they can at least make an argument in it's favor even they're not right while people from X/YT can't do so even when they have the right opinions.
Go read the arguments from the people who said Garp is stronger than Kuzan in that thread, and then go and read the comments in the communities that you speak of. You'll know what I am talking about.
You didn't prove anyone wrong lmao.
Go read the arguments from the people who said Garp is stronger than Kuzan in that thread, and then go and read the comments in the communities that you speak of. You'll know what I am talking about.
You didn't prove anyone wrong lmao.
he hasnt been with them a month
they are well acquainted with how strong he is
The alliance he joined is notably much stronger and far more threatening than cg
and he just took down garp
if all these things such as experience mattered kuzan's bounty wouldnt even be above 3 billion but it certainly will be
they are well acquainted with how strong he is
The alliance he joined is notably much stronger and far more threatening than cg
and he just took down garp
if all these things such as experience mattered kuzan's bounty wouldnt even be above 3 billion but it certainly will be
You don't decide who's stronger than who strictly based on who has the strongest attack. Katakuri didn't have anything comparable to Boundman, yet he'd mop the floor with it. It's a matter of who the stronger one is overall. Besides, our initial argument is that people who faced extreme situations will get a Haki bloom, it'd be beyond retarded to say Luffy did not face an extreme situation fighting Doffy.
What do you think extreme fight means? that he won easily? lmfao. It was an equal fight that lasted ten days, that's the definition of winning barely. No fight in OP even comes close to being as close as Akainu vs Kuzan.
Neither did Akainu. And Ace did face an extreme situation, yet no Haki bloom.
The difficulty of a battle isn't determined by how injured the opponent is, but based on how hard it was to earn the victory. Kuzan may have lost both his hands for all we know, it still doesn't warrant an easy win for Akainu, nor does it help in reducing the fight's difficulty. Katakuri took less damage than Luffy during their fight, yet Luffy's the winner, not the other way around.
What do you think extreme fight means? that he won easily? lmfao. It was an equal fight that lasted ten days, that's the definition of winning barely. No fight in OP even comes close to being as close as Akainu vs Kuzan.
Neither did Akainu. And Ace did face an extreme situation, yet no Haki bloom.
The difficulty of a battle isn't determined by how injured the opponent is, but based on how hard it was to earn the victory. Kuzan may have lost both his hands for all we know, it still doesn't warrant an easy win for Akainu, nor does it help in reducing the fight's difficulty. Katakuri took less damage than Luffy during their fight, yet Luffy's the winner, not the other way around.
You are steering away from the main argument. I said that old gen wank can get ridiculous, you said that it doesn’t and “the modern OP community” thinks old gen are below yonkos and admirals. I provided proof that your generalizations are wrong and here you are doing dances about irrelevant shit. I don’t care about whose opinion you think are more valuable or not but I disproved your generalization with that old Garp vs Kuzan thread lol.
I’ll just ignore you from now on, I don’t have the energy to keep talking to a stuck-up.
I’ll just ignore you from now on, I don’t have the energy to keep talking to a stuck-up.
He has as an official BB member, only started being public member since Pudding capture
previously since Punk Hazard he's been only secretly in contact with BB, nobody knew about him being BB pirate, that's why Doffy asked what's his status and marines were just surprised at him having contacts in the underworld
Not to the Marines
Marines directly have bounties placed on them.
BB isn't targeting Marines exclusively.
Sure, if he even gets credited with that or Oda just skips it or gives that feat to everyone including BB
previously since Punk Hazard he's been only secretly in contact with BB, nobody knew about him being BB pirate, that's why Doffy asked what's his status and marines were just surprised at him having contacts in the underworld
Not to the Marines
Marines directly have bounties placed on them.
BB isn't targeting Marines exclusively.
Sure, if he even gets credited with that or Oda just skips it or gives that feat to everyone including BB
There's no steering away from anything. I said it's the general consensus that the prime top-tiers are accepted as stronger than the old gen. One thread doesn't reflect the majority; even in the link you've provided, the winner is Kuzan. Looking at the voters, I bet most votes that Garp got as from anti-admiral gang who voted just to be spiteful towards the Yonko fandom—a lof of them don't even believe the shit that they've voted for.
The guy's directly opposing the WG and CDs, taking down kings "favorable" to WG, former Marine official, son of Garp...
It IS a pirate fable but the story directly involve politics and armed forces... Perhaps Dragon's bounty isn't that higher than Roger's (maybe just about a hundred million higher) and that Luffy will surpass that bounty EoS...
It IS a pirate fable but the story directly involve politics and armed forces... Perhaps Dragon's bounty isn't that higher than Roger's (maybe just about a hundred million higher) and that Luffy will surpass that bounty EoS...
