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Kizaru vs Luffy (oldest C3 Admiral vs youngest monkey family member)
Aokiji vs Garp (youngest C3 Admiral vs old monkey family member)
Akainu vs Dragon would complete the trilogy of match ups. Also they are exact same age, were in the marines together, and Akainu would not shut up about Dragon at MF.
Aokiji vs Garp (youngest C3 Admiral vs old monkey family member)
Akainu vs Dragon would complete the trilogy of match ups. Also they are exact same age, were in the marines together, and Akainu would not shut up about Dragon at MF.
Fujitora is probably the worst Admiral matchup for Kizaru. He can take Kizaru's mobility away, which is key.
Teach is another individual who if he is awakened, should counter Kizaru. But now that we know that even FS, Snakeman level work rate, angles, unpredictability, and even G5 levels of speed ontop of FS, has little to no effect on him.
It's going to be very hard to argue anyone outside of mobility restricting opponents can actually defeat Kizaru. Speed, FS, work rate, nothing seems to actually work. I have to say, Oda messed up with this one, but him feeding Luffy could mean Kizaru is never defeated, so Oda doesn't have to deal with the headache of finding this extremely rare opponent for him who can pull off the impossible.
Teach is another individual who if he is awakened, should counter Kizaru. But now that we know that even FS, Snakeman level work rate, angles, unpredictability, and even G5 levels of speed ontop of FS, has little to no effect on him.
It's going to be very hard to argue anyone outside of mobility restricting opponents can actually defeat Kizaru. Speed, FS, work rate, nothing seems to actually work. I have to say, Oda messed up with this one, but him feeding Luffy could mean Kizaru is never defeated, so Oda doesn't have to deal with the headache of finding this extremely rare opponent for him who can pull off the impossible.
That's like saying Kaido and Goofy should've detected Guernica right away before he got in their clash
Saturn was pre-occupied with Bonney A LOT. They even had a wholeass flashback. If Saturn was engaged in actual combat then you might have a point but he was just torturing Bonney. Not paying attention leading to interruption is a thing
Saturn was pre-occupied with Bonney A LOT. They even had a wholeass flashback. If Saturn was engaged in actual combat then you might have a point but he was just torturing Bonney. Not paying attention leading to interruption is a thing
Fairly possible he never gets a real fight because of it. It doesn't seem he will become an actual ally but I'm not sure if he will ever be a real antagonist either (he literally fed Luffy). Possible Oda just has him get stalled by X til his "brother" Akainu fall and he doesn't feel like has to continue fighting.
Nothing, Oda simply fucked up and created a busted character. The least Oda could have done is have him be weak defensively when he does get touched, but Oda also decided to give him an insane guard, and elite endurance/durability on top of this. I know Admirals are supposed to be well rounded, but I think having one weaker point when he has such busted speeds would do a lot to balance the character out. As it stands Kizaru can pretty much do anything he wants against anyone. The dude could press a sword god like Rayleigh in CQC swordsmanship. He has too many busted options with no consequences.
I don't think Kizaru is ever gonna fall.
I don't think Kizaru is ever gonna fall.
